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[fsdelta_04]

I have a 232GB Maxtor MaxBlast hardrive installed onto my machine. It came with a boot up disk to get the drive partitioned right and other stuff but during the Windows XP or Windows Vista instllation, the drive is showing up as a 31GB. I found my old Windows 2000 disc and it shows up as a 232GB as normal. I tried using google to find an answer but not a clear one. Any thoughts?

[viche12345]

Does MaxBlast software install DDS on the hard drive? If it does, you have to wait until the blue banner shows up on POST, then press a key to boot from the cd. If you fail to do this and boot directly from the cd, the DDS emulation software will not be loaded, and the BIOS will assume the hard drive as limited to 31GB.

[fsdelta_04]

It does that but when during the installation of it, I choose the Advanced install i make the whole 232GB one partition instead of splitting it. So i wouldn't see why it still says 31GB when i dont use the the advanced and use the easy install. It is suppose to partition it to 137GB but still shows up as 31GB

[fsdelta_04]

But here is the BIG problem. When i load and see that Blue box. I hit "c" to load from the Cd-rom.

the next thing that appears is "press spacebar to load up from cdrom or esc to load from harddisk" or somthing close to that

when i press C it trys to load up from the hardrive and when i press Esc is does the same thing. It wont let me boot from Cdrom

[tomcatdriver2006]

TELL ME (ALWAYS DO THIS!) By the way, I should have read the ? FIRST. I saw this for days. NOTHING is wrong with 232 IT I BINARY 1 GB= 1024 MB, etc.Look at My Computer PIEin Propertis, One hs BYTES, one ha GB. BYTES are Binary, GB are DECimal. Binary=MSFT use as is real. DEC= OEM HDD maker, ! GB= 1000 MB(WRONG math) Read atrticle on how to fix 31.8-32 to regular, It just needs a little help. NOTHING complicated, This other STUFF, see if modle of ATA matches, if YES print/save, use

1.Make

2. Model

3.S/N

4. Capacity: IN OEM Decimal Number= 250 Gb, 232 is Binary, MSFT use.

5. Is it PATA/ATA otr EIDE, SATA, SATA1?

6. I can find out via Seagate-Maxtor. Seagate bought out Maxtor.

7.Date of HDD Manufacture.

8. IF PATA/ATA, IDE, NOT SATA: WHAT POSITION do you have jumper ON? Cable Select, Master, Slave, or no jumper.?

9. Where did you buy it from?

10. Did you register warranty for said HDD? via online or mail with OEM?

11. Is it a Recertified or NEW HDD? (CRITICAL! )

12.During this install attempt, DO you have any other Connectors or devices plugged into HDD?

13. How old is BIOS? TELL ME EXACT BIOS NUMBER AND DATE!

14. What is largest HD ever installed into Mobo?

I used to work at BOTH Seagate & Maxtor in Longmont, Co. I was a QEng on the Dmax 9 & 10. I still have friends working there.

Get me info today, IF LUCKY, an answer today from my Quality Engineering teammates from 1998-2004. i live only 200 miles from the plants now. I used to work and live just down the street.

Hustle on these answers.

Steve
TomcatDriver
PS: PM me. it is faster.

[tomcatdriver2006]

Diamond Max 17
ATA 66/100/133 Install 250 GB IDE- Model 6G250P0

http://www.seagate.com/ww/v/index.jsp?vgnextoid=bad4ec70fce8f010VgnVCM100000dd04090aRCRD&locale=en-US#

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What to do to make entire drive cap read in bios:
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32 GB - 33.8 GB Limitation

The standard FAT 16 partition type from DOS and Windows 95 will only allow you to create a maximum 2 GB partition. If you would like to create a larger partiton you will need to use FAT 32 or NTFS partition types available in Windows 95B or newer operating systems.

There is also a BIOS limitation at 2 GBytes which may require a BIOS upgrade or purchasing a 3rd party controller.

Some older computers may “hang” if their BIOS detects a hard drive that has more than 4,092 cylinders at startup. To eliminate this problem, on capacities less than 40GB, the drive includes a capacity-limiting jumper that sets the drive’s default translation geometry to 4,092 cylinders (2.1 Gbytes). Then to access the full capacity of the drive, you can use third-party software. Otherwise update the BIOS or use a third-party controller card to correct the problem.

These are the different jumper setting configurations you may encounter using the Limit Capacity Jumper Setting:

Single Master with Limit Capacity

[ :] : : [:]

Slave with Limit Capacity

: : : [:]

Master with Non-ATA Compatible Slave
This is usually ATAPI devices like CD-ROMs plus Limit Capacity

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http://www.seagate.com/ww/v/index.jsp?locale=en-US&name=32_GB_-_33.8_GB_Limitation&vgnextoid=dacb5b1142aec010VgnVCM100000dd04090aRCRD

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ATA Format instructs using XP wizard!
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http://www.seagate.com/ww/v/index.jsp?locale=en-US&name=ATA_Troubleshooter_-_Windows_2000_XP_-_Drive_Setup&vgnextoid=fb214a3cdde5c010VgnVCM100000dd04090aRCRD

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D.Max 17 SATA 250- Model: 6G250E0

http://www.seagate.com/ww/v/index.jsp?vgnextoid=65d4ec70fce8f010VgnVCM100000dd04090aRCRD&locale=en-US

Diamond Max 17 Model 6G250E0
Formatted capacity: Up to 320GB
Latest 160GB per disk recording technology
Typical seek time: 80GB – 12ms, 160, 250 and 320GB 8.9ms
Rotational speed: 7200 RPM
Serial ATA buffer: 8MB buffer
ATA/133 buffer: 80GB – 2MB buffer; 160GB, 250GB, 320GB – 8MB buffer
3.0Gb Serial ATA interface
ATA/133 interface available
RoHS-compliant

Install :

NOTE BIOS SATA HOST ADAPTER ISSUE!

http://www.seagate.com/ww/v/index.jsp?vgnextoid=65d4ec70fce8f010VgnVCM100000dd04090aRCRD&locale=en-US&reqPage=Support&supportReqTab=Install#win

Host Adapter in BIOS issue, CHK YOURS!

Configuring the BIOS
Close your computer case and restart your computer. Your computer may automatically detect your new drive. If your computer does not automatically detect your new drive, follow the steps below.

Restart your computer. While the computer restarts, run the system setup program (sometimes called BIOS or CMOS setup). This is usually done by pressing a special key, such as DELETE, ESC, or F1 during the startup process.
Within the system setup program, instruct the system to auto detect your new drive.
Save the settings and exit the setup program. When your computer restarts, it should recognize your new drive. If your system still doesn't recognize your new drive, see the troubleshooting section on the back of this sheet.
Note: Serial ATA is a new interface type. Some older systems may see the drive and classify it as a SCSI device if you are using a Serial ATA host adapter. This is normal even though this is not a SCSI disc drive. Many systems’ BIOS will not identify a Serial ATA drive connected to a PCI SATA host adapter. This is because a PCI SATA Host Adapter has its own BIOS which is used to identify hard drives connected to it which is separate from the BIOS of the computer. To determine whether or not the SATA Host Adapter is detecting the Serial ATA hard drive, please consult the documentation provided by the Serial ATA Host Adapter’s manufacturer. This does not affect drive performance or capacity

Other Tips
Confirm the Serial ATA channels are enabled. Most motherboard setup utilities allow users to disable the Serial ATA ports. If the controller does not detect the drive, look to confirm that all Serial ATA ports are enabled.


THAT IS EVERYTHING GO TO SEAGATE.com or use links . THES areonly 2 HDd that fit with little stff i have from you.

PRINT THIS OUT it took me 1.5 hours to gett all this crud.
Good luck,
TomcatDriver
steve

[viche12345]

fsdelta_04 wrote: But here is the BIG problem. When i load and see that Blue box. I hit "c" to load from the Cd-rom.

the next thing that appears is "press spacebar to load up from cdrom or esc to load from harddisk" or somthing close to that

when i press C it trys to load up from the hardrive and when i press Esc is does the same thing. It wont let me boot from Cdrom

So you pressed <SPACE> and it still booted from the hard drive???

Also, check your jumpers on the hard drive. Tomcat has some very good info you should consider.

[tomcatdriver2006]

it DOES NOT MATTERa bout anything else:

The FAT 16 file sys is preventing it from loading into NTFS mode loadn ,READ that OEM artivle.


Change it in new bios (NTFS)or ide host adapter via pci

[fsdelta_04]

The drive is connected using a IDE cable or w/e that grey flat, wide cable is. but in the hardrive setup i partition it to a NTFS 232GB. But where do i find the host adapter in the bios. I am searching for it but is there a specific name for it or under a specific group?

[fsdelta_04]

viche12345 wrote: fsdelta_04 wrote: But here is the BIG problem. When i load and see that Blue box. I hit "c" to load from the Cd-rom.

the next thing that appears is "press spacebar to load up from cdrom or esc to load from harddisk" or somthing close to that

when i press C it trys to load up from the hardrive and when i press Esc is does the same thing. It wont let me boot from Cdrom

So you pressed <SPACE> and it still booted from the hard drive???

Also, check your jumpers on the hard drive. Tomcat has some very good info you should consider.

yes. It booted both ways to the hardrive.

I played around with the jumpers because the different jumpter settings, the capacity would change in the maxblast install cd. I am not sure where i have it set right now but it is showing as a 232GB on maxtor.

I went through all of the links and the information he gave but no idea why this isn't working. The hardrive use to work on my windows xp but now it wont.

[GDI]

I don't know if this is the problem- but I do remember one time, when I switched my two hard drives' positions, which were different sizes, one being like 80 GB, the other 160- the one on "slave" to "master", and vice versa, XP had a fit and made me reinstall it.

I don't know if it's a quirk in XP, but it might be that if you changed jumper settings, and the hard drive size changed, XP may need to be reinstalled.

I'd probably get a second opinion first, though.

[fsdelta_04]

Well each jumper i set on the hardrive it does no difference in the capacity in the windows xp installation. Just changes the size in the maxtor installation.

[tomcatdriver2006]

Storage Capacity Measurement Standards

Discrepancy Between Reported Capacity and Actual Capacity

Motivation for Proposed Prefixes for Binary Multiples

Two Different Measurements Systems

How Operating Systems Report Drive Capacity

Discrepancy Between Reported Capacity and Actual Capacity
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Many customers are confused when their operating system reports, for example, that their new ST310240A 10.24-GB hard drive is reporting only 9.85 GB in usable capacity.

Several factors can come into play when you see the reported capacity of a hard drive. Unfortunately there are two different number systems used to express units of storage capacity: binary, which says that a kilobyte is equal to 1024 bytes; and decimal, which says that a kilobyte is equal to 1000 bytes.

The storage industry standard is to display capacity in decimal. Even though in binary you have more bytes, the decimal representation of a gigabyte shows greater capacity.

In order to accurately understand the true capacity of your hard drive, you have to know which base unit of measure (binary or decimal) is being used to represent capacity.

Another factor that can cause misrepresentation of the size of a hard drive is BIOS limitations. Many older BIOS are limited in the number of cylinders they can support.
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Motivation for Proposed Prefixes for Binary Multiples

Once upon a time, computer professionals noticed that 1024 or 210 (binary) was very nearly equal to 1000 or 103 (decimal) and started using the prefix "kilo" to mean 1024. That worked well enough for a decade or two because everybody who talked kilobytes knew that the term implied 1024 bytes.

But almost overnight a much more numerous "everybody" bought computers, and the trade computer professionals needed to talk to physicists and engineers and even to ordinary people, most of whom know that a kilometre is 1000 metres and a kilogram is 1000 grams.
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Two Different Measurements Systems
Motivation for Proposed Prefixes for Binary Multiples
Once upon a time, computer professionals noticed that 1024 or 210 (binary) was very nearly equal to 1000 or 103 (decimal) and started using the prefix "kilo" to mean 1024. That worked well enough for a decade or two because everybody who talked kilobytes knew that the term implied 1024 bytes. But almost overnight a much more numerous "everybody" bought computers, and the trade computer professionals needed to talk to physicists and engineers and even to ordinary people, most of whom know that a kilometre is 1000 metres and a kilogram is 1000 grams.

Name Abbreviation Binary Power/Binary Value (represented in Decimal) Decimal Power/ Decimal (Equivalent)

kilobyte KB 210, 1,024 / 103, 1,000
megabyte MB 220, 1,048,576 / 106, 1,000,000
gigabyte GB 230, 1,073,741,824 / 109, 1,000,000,000
terabyte TB 240 1,099,511,627,776 / 1012, 1,000,000,000,000

Often, when two or more people begin discussing storage capacity, some will refer to binary values and others will refer to decimal values without making a distinction between the two.

This has caused much confusion in the past. In an effort to end this confusion, all major hard drive manufactures use decimal values when discussing storage capacity.
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How Operating Systems Report Drive Capacity
Windows XP / 2000 / NT

From Windows Explorer, right click on a drive letter, then click on Properties. This shows capacities in bytes, MB, and GB. SEE ATTACHMENT!

So, yours will STATE 250,XXX,XXX,XXX Billion bytes in Binary Windows Value. On the RIGHt it will STAE 232 GB! THEY arw both the same!, just two difeent ways of stating Capacity/

Whew,

How To Install and Troubleshoot ATA Hard Drives


Do not drop or bump the drive.
Keep the drive in the protective anti-static container until ready to install.
Protect the drive from static discharge by wearing a grounded wrist strap. Attach the wrist strap to the metal chassis of your computer.
Handle the drive by the edges of the frame.
Do not apply pressure or attach labels to the circuit board or the top cover of the drive.
Turn off the power to the host system before installation.
For further information, please visit our Proper Handling Tutorial.



What you need
Phillips screwdriver and four 6-32 UNC drive mounting screws.
Standard 40-pin ATA interface cable, or an 80-conductor cable if running UATA66/100/133 (max length: 18 inches).
An unused drive power cable for your new drive.
Needle-nose pliers for removing or adding jumpers.

UltraATA 66/100/133 Considerations
If your new drive can support UltraATA 66/100/133 modes and you want to take advantage of these faster transfer rates, you will need the following:
A computer that supports UDMA Modes 3 and 4 (5 for UltraATA100, 6 for UltraATA133).
A 40-pin, 80-conductor cable (available from your dealer). This cable is provided with current UltraATA hard drive retail kits. It can be identified by its having a blue connector to connect to the motherboard, a grey connector to connect to the slave drive, and a black connector to connect to the master drive.
An Operating System that handles DMA transfer modes (Windows 95/98/Me/2000/XP).
Installation Procedures

Setting the Jumpers


Master or Single Drive - Use this setting if the drive is the only drive on the ATA interface cable.
Drive is Slave - Use this setting if the drive is an additional drive on the cable and the original drive is set as Master.
Master with non-ATA compatible drive (Seagate® drives only) - Use this if the drive is Master to a CD-ROM, tape drive or other non-ATA drive.
Note: It is preferred to have the CD-ROM and other non-hard drive products on the secondary ATA channel.

*USE THIS!*********Cable-Select Option (Default) -

Use with Ultra ATA 133/100 cables. This allows the cable to select if the drive is master or slave based on the position on the cable. The Master drive goes on the black connector at the end of the cable, the slave drive connects to the gray connector in the middle and the host adapter connects to the blue connector at the other end of the cable.

Limit Capacity Option/Capacity Limitation Jumper (CLJ) - This option may be required if the system the drive is being installed into does not support the full capacity of the drive. If this jumper is required, your system cannot support a drive this large and can be updated with a ::::

THIS is what YOU MIGHT NEED A "PCI ATA133 Controller card": 15-20 bucks PCI controller card. Plug into PCI slot, Insert BLUE CONNECTOR into Primary IDE conn on Card, THR CARd has its own BIOS, NOW IT Will READ NEW 250 GB HDD when you put CMOS Drive info on AuTo, LBA, settings, Hit Enter, Drive read, reboot, JUST DO NOt install AYTHING in old IDE conn.
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Jumper Illustrations

Seagate Products Maxtor®/Quantum Products
Jumper settings for Seagate ATA hard drives.

Note: This figure depicts the jumper settings for recent Seagate ATA drive families above 20 GBytes. If you have an older drive please visit our Technical Library and find your model number for details on jumper configuration. Jumper settings for Maxtor ATA hard drives.


Attaching Cables and Mounting the Drive
Locate a free device connector on the IDE interface cable in your computer.
Attach one end of the interface cable to the connector on the system board (see user's manual for locations). Align pin 1 on the cable with pin 1 on the connector. If using the 80-conductor cable, the blue connector should connect to the system board connector. The black connector goes to the Master and the Gray goes to the Slave.
Find an unused power connector on a cable coming from the computer power supply and attach it to the 4-pin DC power connector. The power connector is keyed so that it attaches one way only. DO NOT force it.
Mount the drive in either the horizontal or vertical position depending on your case orientation.
Slide the drive into the bay.
Secure the drive using four 6-32 UNC mounting screws. Caution: Do not overtighten the screws. Overtightened screws can damage the drive.
Configure the BIOS

For more detailed information, please see our BIOS Setup troubleshooter.
Run the system setup program.
Enable LBA mode and UDMA mode, if applicable.
Select the auto-detect option.
Save and exit the system setup program.
Partitioning the drive in Windows XP / Windows 2000 (for systems where this is the 2nd drive in the system).
Boot into Windows XP.
Open Computer Management and select Disk Management.
Initialize the drive.
Partition the drive.
Format the drive.
Assign the drive letter.
Initiate changes.
See the FAQ "How to install an additional drive using Windows XP disk management" for more details.

[tomcatdriver2006]

in cmos rotae order of boot in cmos page two:

should look lie this, thrn save and exit.

cdrom
HDD drive 250Gb
Floppy
Save eit, reboot. put cd win xp in befroe it starts1 ? Exit Dos gy
/ type exit
reboot pc with System disk
now sllep
sorry typosd
stev

[fsdelta_04]

I think my neighbor (bro-in-law) has one of those pci cards. I will just ask him for his. But i took my hard drive over to my brothers computer which is a lot older than mine and installed a fresh copy of windows xp perfectly with the correct size of the capacity.

DiamonMax 10
Model:6l200P0
200GB PATA133 HDD