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[juni66]

Hello my dear Scenery Freaks XD!

I have a Presumption on the AFCAD 2.21 WYSIWYG Airport Scenery Editor Program by Lee Swordy:

The yellow Points on Taxiways called ILS Hold Short Nodes could possibly specify the Point, there you are able to call the Tower to give clearance for take off.

In his help, he speculated about the meaning of this points, but didn't find one.


What's your experience, is my presumption right? Oo???

Should we mail him or does he already know? :oops:

[ricktobin]

juni66...

Copy and paste the section of the help file you're questioning. It would give a better understanding of exactly what you're talking about.

[paulvil]

Are you talking about:
Quote: ILS hold-short nodes also create visible markers. They are placed behind normal hold short markers on some runways to have aircraft hold further back during IMC. It does not appear that ATC or AI use this type of node for anything special. ?

[juni66]

paulvil wrote: Are you talking about …?
Yes! Thanks for copying it here. :oops:
On Tuesday I figured out, that untypacally for FS, if you don't have ILS Nodes on the Taxiway, you can get clearence on Narita (RJAA) on 34L only very close to the Runway. It's exactly, if you cross the ILS Node. Does this happen accidently or is it like I thought?

{edit:} Sorry, what is IMC? :oops:

[wheelright]

I seem to remember reading that the default distance is 75 feet from the Hold Short Line. I believe that this distance can be adjusted through AFCAD2. If you have the ATC window open to the tower freq as you taxi, you'll see choice number 3 (take off request) appear as you enter the 75 foot radius.

[ricktobin]

juni66...

IMC = Instrument Meteorological Conditions

Did you follow the suggestions given to you at the other sim site? They seemed to be logical solutions to the problems you're having. Also, it seems one of the members of that forum is the program designer of the very program you're having problems with, I can't think of a better person to get this figured out.

According to the AFCAD2 Help file:

"The radius for a hold short node is 230 feet from the edge of the RWY, not the centerline. 225 is the suggested maximum. However, this does not apply to ATC and AI as they don't use ILS hold-short nodes."

Reference the 70 foot rule:

"Another problem can occur when two or more aircraft line up at a hold-short node for departure, the aircraft at the front of the line may get clearance and proceed to take off, but the aircraft behind him may become stuck. This problem is more likely to occur with smaller aircraft. This can be prevented by placing a normal (blue) node or an ILS hold-short node just behind the hold short node. Some experimenting has shown this second node should be no more that 70 feet (21.3 m) behind the hold-short node to work with all sizes of aircraft. As a rule of thumb, just place the nodes so they touch or overlap slightly."

[juni66]

@theme:
Quote: »Hold-short and ILS hold-short nodes are special nodes that cause FS to draw hold-short markers on the taxiway. The hold-short node is also an essential checkpoint for ATC takeoff clearance.«

I haven't read it or this helpfile is newer, than the one I read. So this thread is nonsense now.


@ricktobin:
Yes, I did some of the things he said, and it works greatly except to the things I mentioned in the other thread. I didn't had time yet, to post it in that forum, too and maybe I missunderstood what he wrotes.
On this special object placement problem I should write in another Forum, he told me. So, I did. I should give a better example, I think.
^^; [/quote]