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[wsfilms]

I'm flying a World Travel airplane from Seattle Washington, to Las Vegas Nevada. I'm currently at an altitude of 17,000 ft. The ATC window comes up and says "World Travel 1123 Heavy, Please expedite your climb to FL195" What does that mean?? I can't seem to find it in the manuel or help files and I did a search on here but found nothing. I guess I could go through the flying lesson stuff again but I thought it would be easier this way. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.

[ricktobin]

FL195 is flight level (altitude) 19,500'. If ATC gave you an instruction and you either missed it, ignored it, or didn't react fast enough, it'll tell you to hurry up.


...From the Aeronautical Information Manual:

http://www.faa.gov/ATPubs/AIM/

4-2-9. Altitudes and Flight Levels

a. Up to but not including 18,000 feet MSL, state the separate digits of the thousands plus the hundreds if appropriate.

EXAMPLE-
1. 12,000 one two thousand
2. 12,500 one two thousand five hundred

b. At and above 18,000 feet MSL (FL 180), state the words "flight level" followed by the separate digits of the flight level.

EXAMPLE-
1. 190 Flight Level One Niner Zero
2. 275 Flight Level Two Seven Five

[wheelright]

Quote: If ATC gave you an instruction and you either missed it, ignored it, or didn't react fast enough, it'll tell you to hurry up.

I think that I've figured out that FS ATC expects you to decend or climb at a rate of at least 1100 or so FPM. Since I hate screaming decents, combined with vectoring and landing checklists, I'll usually request gradual altitude reductions a ways out from my destination.

Not sure what the big guys do in real life so maybe one of our real pilots will answer. Just what is a reasonalble rate of altitude gain and loss with respect to passenger comfort?

[Exxman]

Rick! Great answer man. That cleared it up perfect. You attention to detail is mind boggling. ;)

@ Wheelright: good question. Perhaps a new thread in the Pilot's Lounge would be a good start concerning your question?

Exxman

[tmafcerqueira]

I think the 3 rule might do the job (ATP lessons)

[wsfilms]

Sorry for the late response. Wasn't able to connect to the internet. Thank your guys for your suggestions. God I'm so dumb I should have figured it out. Its fun flyin these planes!! Thanks again people :)

[pflyer]

Well i fly the 737-700 for Southwest and in that ac we decend at a rate of 1200 to 2500 fpm. This not only is in light of passenger comfort so the cabin isnt full of puke when we land but its also generally in respect to atc and traffic. Depending on speed on approach (generally 280kias above 10,000 unless otherwise instructed), you may have to be at or above/below a certain altitude by the time you hit a certain intercection or vor. So in reference to distance and speed comes the decent rate. And that is also where the "three" rule may come into effect.....or just alot of guessing..lol :P

[wheelright]

Quote: I think the 3 rule might do the job (ATP lessons)

Thanks tmafcerqueira. I had forgotten about that. Maybe I should go back and do the lessons correctly this time. :oops:

pflyer said: Quote: we decend at a rate of 1200 to 2500 fpm

That's good to know It's hard to judge flying without the sensation but, then again, I'm the best one to ask since, I'm not bothered by motion sickness. A little rough air makes the trip a little less boring as far as I'm concerned. My wife on the other hand starts to turn green on pushback 8O

pflyer said: Quote: or just alot of guessing..lol

8O Huh? I did'nt need to know that, thankyouverymuch. :lol:

One thing that I've found necessary in acheiving a good profile in FS is to, monitor location and plan ahead for a gradual descent. FSNavigator helps but you can also use the GPS or FS map to plan the descent point. The reason is that, once ATC starts vectoring you, the option to request altitude changes is removed. And FS ATC doesn't care if you have to clean up all that virtual puke :lol:

[ricktobin]

Wheelright...you do know what that little arrow in front of the A/C icon is for in FSNav right?

[wheelright]

Rick,
You mean the one for altitude and airspeed at the top of the frame? If so, yes. As I said above, FSNav is a help but, when flying pax on IFR, you rarely get to follow your flight plan. I wondered about this thinking that it was a quirk of FS9 until I ran across this article on Bone's Aviation Page http://www.homepages.mcb.net/bones/04fs/tutorial/N342JC.htm It illustrates that this is the rule rather than the exception even in real flying. Chalk up another point for FS9 for realism.

What I try to do is to start requesting decreases in altitude close to or before the BOD (beginning of descent) indicated by the FSNav flight plan. I find this better than waiting for ATC to order a drop to pattern altitude lickety split. This is particularly important in the old prop liners I like to fly, like the Connie. They don't like fast descents. Ever loose your 3 and 4 engines on short final 8O That's what'll happen.

As a related aside, I think it was the late Ossie Davis who got into trouble with the FAA shortly before he passed for stepping down in his approach to Teterboro without ATC clearance. He was following the published procedure but, he learned the hard way that in controlled airspace, as he put it, "You have to wait until Simon says." :)

[wsfilms]

I know this would be off topic but I figured why start another post. Anyways, I downloaded an f16 fighter jet thingy and I really like how its easy to fly. Is there some way of making Boeing 747s fly like those f16s? I don't have a problem flying the boeing planes but I just wanted to make flying a little more enjoyable :)

[Exxman]

Better to start a new thread regarding your ? there mate. That way it won't get lost in this one and is easy for people to pick out to answer...

Exx

[tropicalfish]

well.... i have a question. last time they told me to climb to 9300. and i was at like almost 40000. what does that mean?

[Exxman]

Means the controller is on Meth. Try to call another controller.


Exx