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nmaggie

Anybody know of any scenery packages depicting Mitchel Field, or vintage Long Island, NY area?

Thanks!

groundsquirrel · Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 2:20 am Post subject: how about...

Start here:

http://windrfters.com/

Found this one in the Surclaro files, it says General Mitchell field, not sure if that is the one you were talking about, in Milwaukee.

http://www.surclaro.com/download.php?op=getit&lid=10554

There may be others but my google is tired :P

nmaggie · Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 11:41 pm Post subject:

Thanks! I'll check that site out.

Actually, I was thinking of Mitchel (one "L") Field in Garden City, NY (now Hofstra University). Several historical and/or record flights from there. Jimmy Doolittle did the first instrument flight (1929), P-38 prototype ran off the end of the runway (after setting a speed/distance record I think?), Republic XF-12 landed there after its transcontinental flight (record?), etc. Also nearby Roosevelt Field (now a mall) which is where Lindbergh actually took off for Paris (not Republic as depicted in the stock FS2004 scenario). Anyway, some cool history there. Thanks again for the tip!

Commander Cool · Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 10:02 am Post subject:

Talking of Long Island how come there is not very much going on in the FS LI. I visit Long Island a lot in reality and there are a lot of very beautiful places such as Montauk (ever been?), Montauk is beautiful and has an amazing big lighthouse looking out on Rhode Island (Rhode right?) but in FS, there is a tiny airstrip and thats your lot. Another place, Sag Harbor, where my uncle lives, that is the most beautiful, most peaceful place, for me, on the planet but does it get a look in? No...all Long Island gets is the big regional airport, the name has slipped me, and a slap in the face for its troubles.

Derek over and out

groundsquirrel · Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 11:50 am Post subject: probably,

Probably 'cause none of the FS designers are from LI? I dont know, but it's a sure bet we wouldnt be having this discussion if they were doing to whole planet or even just the entire USA in excruciating detail and lord knows what price we'd have to pay. There is Aerosoft's Manhattan and also there is Megascenery products for that area. I dont know how they cover those particular airports, maybe somebody has checked 'em out and can chime in here.

Commander Cool · Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 5:08 pm Post subject:

yeh a suppose GS but at the same time it frustrates the hell outta me, anyway..what can you do?

Derek

pingponggame · Joined: 18 Dec 2002 Posts: 568 Location: Seattle

Commander Cool wrote: yeh a suppose GS but at the same time it frustrates the hell outta me, anyway..what can you do?

Derek

Pick up on scenery design :P

Commander Cool · Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 8:09 pm Post subject:

well it was rhetorical but I guess your right :P

Derek

wheelright · Joined: 15 May 2004 Posts: 169 Location: KDNL/KAGS

In answer to the original question, I saw a string regarding a LaGuardia project over at the AFCAD forum on the PAI site. They had some really nice screen shots of the Marine Air Terminal back in the day. You might try looking over there. I think I've also run across vintage Floyd Bennet Field scenery somewhere.

I was born and raised on Long Island and have to agree with CC that it's a pretty place. It's just too crowded for me now. It was much more rural when I was growing up with farms everywhere.

The airport you're thinking of, CC, is Long Island McArthur, KISP. I used to go flying out of there with my friend's father in his Cherokee 140. He later bought a 180.

Back then, the field was in the middle of nowhere surrounded by pine barrens and a pig farm. Now it's surrounded by office parks, shopping centers and houses with people always complaining about the noise.

Commander Cool · Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2005 10:06 am Post subject:

wow, I can't imagine Long Island back then, the Long Island i'm used to is a bustling little world of its own full of the very rich and tourists.
Yeh thats the airport I was thinking of. My uncle flies out of it a lot, he seems to like it but he is an hours drive away from it :P.
Where in Long Island were you reared? ;)

Derek

Edity by Exx: Might want to ask that question via PM as it does have the notion of privacy of identity being made public as well as taking away from the topic of the thread.

wheelright · Joined: 15 May 2004 Posts: 169 Location: KDNL/KAGS

Thanks Exx. It's not a problem. I was born in Brooklyn and raised in East Northport on the north shore.

nmaggie, Check this link;
http://www.hempsteadplains.com/Mitchell.htm

Back in the '50's There was was a huge aviation industry located on Long Island and because of the sparse population, it was very evident. Republic, Grumman, Fairchild and numerous ancilliary companies were located there. Mitchell Field was one of many military facilities located there.

I remember laying on my back in the yard watching formations of C-119's, F-86's, F-100's and many other types flying overhead. A couple of times our living room picture window was cracked by sonic booms before they restricted supersonic flight there.

The farmer who's property surrounded our neighborhood owned a Piper Cub that he kept in his barn and flew it right from his fields. He always allowed us to fly our model planes from the fallow areas of his farm. We once had an RC glider get loose and make it all the way to Connecticut, some 18+ miles across Long Island Sound! Someone actualy found it and mailed it back.

Commander Cool · Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2005 3:17 pm Post subject:

lol, wow wheelright, you have some amount of stories, sounds like a very full and rich upbringing surrounded by aviation. If only you had the time and this was the right place to listen to them all, lol.

I suppose there are no scenery files for Mitchell field out there?

Derek

wheelright · Joined: 15 May 2004 Posts: 169 Location: KDNL/KAGS

nmaggie,
Still no scenery but here's another Mitchell link for you:http://www.cradleofaviation.org/history/airfields/index.html

I was mistaken about KLGA vintage scenery at the AFCAD forum. It was at the Fsdzigns website: http://fsdzigns.com/v-web/bulletin/bb/viewforum.php?f=35&sid=86b0d5ee27104ed978716a43a98485f5

CC, I was lucky. It was a great place to grow up and my Dad could never drive past an airfield without pulling over and watching for a while.

nmaggie · Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 3:20 am Post subject:

Thanks to all! :)

I'm not originally from LI, but I went to Hofstra University in Hempstead ('83-'87). You could still see where Mitchel's runways used to be. I've been to Cradle of Aviation (sounds like it grew since then), I used to fly in a club out of Republic. Now I'm a left-coaster, working at a certain big airplane company in the Seattle area. I loved LI though.

I think I downloaded the Floyd Bennett Field scenery. I'll check it out.

Thanks again!