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Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 7:33 pm Post subject: above gear extend speed...??

I have had a problem both with a 727, and all the bombardier's I have downloaded. I try to put the gear down, even if my airspeed is like 195-210 and it says "above gear extend speed". I've looked everywhere in the cfg and everything mayeb I don't know what i'm looking for but how can I make it so the extend speed is higher? I can't even land the planes and sometimes it does work...I don't get it.

Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 8:17 pm Post subject:

I don't normally change the "Manufacturer's Recommended Settings". This is because I like to fly within the recommended parameters. However, I did find the following lines in the aircraft.cfg file for one of my default aircraft. Perhaps you may wish to experiment with these settings.

I'll bet that if you change the "gear_warning_available" value to "0", you will not receive any more gear warnings. However, you are defeating the purpose of the warning system. Cool

[gear_warning_system]
gear_warning_available = 1 //Normal
pct_throttle_limit = 0.1 //Percent throttle that activates warning
flap_limit_idle = 5.0 //Flap angle that activates warning at idle
flap_limit_power = 25.5 //Flap angle that activates warning at above idle

Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 8:28 pm Post subject:

No I would normally agree, but I think there is a flaw in these aircraft models..there is no possible way the gear would be damaged putting it down at 185-195..by then you're stalling in a 727 or a bombardier and dropping like a rock... thanks ill try what you posted

Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 8:32 pm Post subject:

didnt work...there's nothing at all in the aircraft cfg that should indicate gear not opening at any speed...just flap blowout speeds etc..

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 2:21 am Post subject:

How about posting up the filenames, who did them, and where you got them.

This way we can take alook at it and their .cfg's and .air files, and see what is going on.

Otherwise, check the "First time posting" announcement. This will help you help us when you have a problem.

RD

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 10:34 am Post subject: I...

I reinstalled 2k2 and am in the process of investigating whether or not there is a way to change the gear warning speed. Until then, read the checklist for landing procedures and follow the speed instructions for that particular aircraft. It is not that the gear will be ripped off. Rather, at those speeds, the wheels will start to spin and vibrate, sometimes violently enough to damage things. Also, gear down at too high a speed upsets the airflow near the center of the fuselage which can be problematic, especially in wind shear conditions. I will post back with my results sometime this week.

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 1:41 pm Post subject:

GS, you lost weight ol'e buddy..... Well, in some parts anyway.

Mel.

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 9:14 pm Post subject:

GS may have lost some weight. However, he still dresses funny. Cool

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 9:41 pm Post subject:

Hate to see what he looks like naked d'oh!

Mel.

Whooooa...... http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa287/graham605/Avitars/Coverup.jpg

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 9:52 pm Post subject:

ok here is the plane and who it's by..

PROJECT OPEN SKY Bombardier Canadair Regional Jet / CRJ 600 - 200
-American Eagle textures

i've put the CFG at the bottom because I can't ge tthe file to attatch..

I will do the same with the other aircraft once we try to solve this one. thanks guys.

CFG:
[fltsim.0]
title=Bombardier - CRJ-200ER
sim=CRJ-200ER
model=
panel=
sound=
texture=

atc_heavy=0
atc_airline=American Eagle
atc_flight_number=685

ui_manufacturer=Bombardier
ui_type=CRJ-200ER
ui_variation=American
visual_damage=1

description=Project Opensky \nBombardier Canadair Regional Jet -- CRJ-200ER\nVersion 2002.1.5\n\nFS2002 Only\n\nEngine Type: General Electric CF34-3B1\n\nModel Designer\n Mitsushi Yutaka\n\nFlight Dynamics Designer\n Warren C. Daniel\n\nTexture Designer\n Thomas Stillner\n\nTechnical Resource\n Nick Peterson\n Simon Ng\n\nTest Pilots\n Project Opensky Members
atc_id=N506AE

[fltsim.1]
title=Bombardier - CRJ-200ER Paint1
sim=CRJ-200ER
model=
panel=
sound=
texture=1

atc_heavy=0
atc_airline=United
atc_flight_number=784

ui_manufacturer=Bombardier
ui_type=CRJ-200ER
ui_variation=United Airlines
visual_damage=1

description=Project Opensky \nBombardier Canadair Regional Jet -- CRJ-200ER\nVersion 2002.1.5\n\nFS2002 Only\n\nEngine Type: General Electric CF34-3B1\n\nModel Designer\n Mitsushi Yutaka\n\nFlight Dynamics Designer\n Warren C. Daniel\n\nTexture Designer\n Thomas Stillner\n\nTechnical Resource\n Nick Peterson\n Simon Ng\n\nTest Pilots\n Project Opensky Members
atc_id=N374UA

[General]
atc_type=BOMBARDIER
atc_model=CARJ
performance=Passengers: 50\nCrew: 2+1 \n\nTotal Baggage Volume: 473 cu ft \n\nDimensions:\nSpan 69 ft 7 in\nLength 87 ft 10 in\nHeight 20 ft 5in \n\nEngines: GE CF34-3B1 x 2\nTO Thrust Rating: 9,220 lb\n\nMax Fuel Cap.: 14,305 lb\nMaxTOW: 51,000 lb\nZFW: 44,000 lb\n\nTypical Cruise Speed @ FL350: \nM.74 - Normal Cruise\nM.81 - High Speed Cruise\nRange: 1,645 nm
editable=0

[contact_points]

//0 Class
//1 Longitudinal Position (feet)
//2 Lateral Position (feet)
//3 Vertical Position (feet)
//4 Impact Damage Threshold (Feet Per Minute)
//5 Brake Map (0=None, 1=Left, 2=Right)
//6 Wheel Radius (feet)
//7 Steer Angle (degrees)
//8 Static Compression (feet) (0 if rigid)
//9 Max/Static Compression Ratio
//10 Damping Ratio (0=Undamped, 1=Critically Damped)
//11 Extension Time (seconds)
//12 Retraction Time (seconds)
//13 Sound Type

point.0=1, 38.83, 0.00, -6.20, 981.1, 0, 0.8500, 70.0, 0.25, 2.5, 0.8878, 9.0, 10.0, 0, 180.0, 200.0
point.1=1, -2.19, -5.39, -6.50, 1174.8, 1, 1.5000, 0.0, 1.0, 2.5, 0.8456, 13.0, 15.0, 2, 180.0, 200.0
point.2=1, -2.19, 5.39, -6.50, 1174.8, 2, 1.5000, 0.0, 1.0, 2.5, 0.8456, 13.0, 15.0, 3, 180.0, 200.0
point.3=2, -5.83, -33.32, -3.00, 787.4, 0, 0.0000, 0.0, 0.0000, 0.0, 0.0000, 0.0, 0.0, 5, 0.0, 0.0
point.4=2, -5.83, 33.32, -3.00, 787.4, 0, 0.0000, 0.0, 0.0000, 0.0, 0.0000, 0.0, 0.0, 6, 0.0, 0.0
point.5=2, -36.29, 0.00, 0.00, 787.4, 0, 0.0000, 0.0, 0.0000, 0.0, 0.0000, 0.0, 0.0, 9, 0.0, 0.0
point.6=2, 46.47, 0.00, -1.50, 787.4, 0, 0.0000, 0.0, 0.0000, 0.0, 0.0000, 0.0, 0.0, 4, 0.0, 0.0
static_pitch = -0.750
static_cg_height = 6.410

[Views]
eyepoint = 34.68, -1.25, 3.8

[electrical]
// ;BusType, MaxAmpLoad, MinVoltage BusTypes:0=MainBus,1=AvionicsBus,2=BatteryBus,3=HotBatteryBus,4-7=Generator/AlternatorBus(1-4)
autopilot = 0, 5 , 17.0
flap_motor = 1, 0 , 1.0
gear_motor = 0, 5 , 17.0
avionics_bus = 0, 0 , 1.0
avionics = 1, 5 , 17.0
pitot_heat = 0, 0 , 1.0
additional_system = 0, 0 , 1.0
marker_beacon = 1, 2 , 17.0
gear_warning = 7, 0 , 99.0
gear_motor = 4, 0 , 1.0
fuel_pump = 0, 0 , 1.0
fuel_transfer_pump = 0, 0 , 1.0
starter1 = 0, 20, 17.0
starter2 = 0, 0 , 1.0
light_nav = 0, 0 , 1.0
light_beacon = 0, 0 , 1.0
light_landing = 0, 0 , 1.0
light_taxi = 0, 0 , 1.0
light_strobe = 0, 0 , 1.0
light_panel = 0, 7 , 99.0
light_recognition = 0, 0 , 1.0
light_wing = 0, 0 , 1.0
marker_beacon = 0, 0 , 1.0
standby_vacuum = 0, 0 , 1.0
auto_brakes = 0, 0 , 1.0
hydraulic_pump = 0, 0 , 1.0
propeller_device = 0, 0 , 1.0

[flight_tuning]
cruise_lift_scalar = 1.0
parasite_drag_scalar = 1.0
induced_drag_scalar = 1.0
elevator_effectiveness = 1.0
aileron_effectiveness = 1.5
rudder_effectiveness = 1.0
pitch_stability = 1.0
roll_stability = 1.0
yaw_stability = 1.0
elevator_trim_effectiveness = 1.0
aileron_trim_effectiveness = 1.0
rudder_trim_effectiveness = 1.0

[airplane_geometry]
wing_area=625.000
wing_span=75.000
wing_root_chord=8.85
wing_dihedral=2.330
wing_incidence=0.000
wing_twist=1.000
oswald_efficiency_factor=2.500
wing_winglets_flag=1
wing_sweep=24.76
wing_pos_apex_lon=0.000
wing_pos_apex_vert=0.000
htail_area=230.000
htail_span=26.667
htail_pos_lon=-49.167
htail_pos_vert=0.000
htail_incidence=0.000
htail_sweep=35.000
vtail_area=190.000
vtail_span=15.716
vtail_sweep=42.000
vtail_pos_lon=-47.917
vtail_pos_vert=5.833
elevator_area=57.500
aileron_area=25.000
rudder_area=32.300
elevator_up_limit=27.502
elevator_down_limit=20.626
aileron_up_limit=25.000
aileron_down_limit=25.000
rudder_limit=23.491
elevator_trim_limit=19.481
spoiler_limit=50.000
spoilerons_available=0
aileron_to_spoileron_gain=0.000
min_ailerons_for_spoilerons=0.000
min_flaps_for_spoilerons=0.000

[WEIGHT_AND_BALANCE]
reference_datum_position= 0.000, 0.000, 0.000
empty_weight_CG_position= 0.000, 0.000, 0.000
max_number_of_stations=50
station_load.0=0.000000,0.000000,0.000000,0.000000

empty_weight= 44000.000
empty_weight_roll_MOI= 150774.000
empty_weight_pitch_MOI= 242040.000
empty_weight_yaw_MOI= 416940.000
empty_weight_coupled_MOI= 0.000
max_gross_weight= 51250.000

CG_forward_limit= 0.000
CG_aft_limit= 1.000

[fuel]
LeftMain= -1.800, -9.360, -1.500, 1058.000, 0.000
RightMain= -1.800, 9.360, -1.500, 1058.000, 0.000
fuel_type= 2.000
number_of_tank_selectors= 1

[GeneralEngineData]
engine_type= 1
Engine.0= -18.667, -7.500, 5.750
Engine.1= -18.667, 7.500, 5.750
fuel_flow_scalar= 1.1627

[TurbineEngineData]
bypass_ratio=4.970
fuel_flow_gain= 0.003
inlet_area= 10.510
rated_N2_rpm= 29920.000
static_thrust= 9220.000
afterburner_available= 0
reverser_available= 1

[jet_engine]
thrust_scalar =1.1625

[flaps.0]
type = 1 // 1 - tail, 2 - lead
span-outboard = 0.8 // 0.0 .. 1.0
extending-time = 21 // seconds
flaps-position.0 = 0 // degrees
flaps-position.1 = 8 // degrees
flaps-position.2 = 20 // degrees
flaps-position.3 = 30 // degrees
flaps-position.4 = 45 // degrees
damaging-speed = 220 // KIAS
blowout-speed = 280 // KIAS

[Radios]
// Radio Type = availiable, standby frequency, has glide slope
Audio.1 = 1
Com.1 = 1, 0
Com.2 = 1, 0
Nav.1 = 1, 0, 1
Nav.2 = 1, 0, 0
Adf.1 = 1
Transponder.1 = 1
Marker.1 = 1

[keyboard_response]
//Breakpoint speeds (knots) on the keyboard increments of control surfaces.
//Speed at which the incremenet is reduced to 1/2 and 1/8 respectively.
elevator = 100, 200
aileron = 100, 200
rudder = 100, 200

[direction_indicators]
//1 Type: 0=None, 1=Vacuum Gyro, 2=Electric Gyro, 3=Electro-Mag Slaved Compass, 4=Slaved to another
//2 Indicator number of slaving indicator if Type = 4
direction_indicator.0=3,0

[exits]
number_of_exits = 1
exit_rate.0 = 0.4 ;Percent per second
//exit_rate.1 = 0.4 ;Percent per second

[EFFECTS]
wake=fx_wake
water=fx_spray
dirt=fx_tchdrt
concrete=fx_sparks
touchdown=fx_tchdwn, 1

[Reference Speeds]
flaps_up_stall_speed = 112.0 //Knots True (KTAS)
full_flaps_stall_speed = 102.0 //Knots True (KTAS)
cruise_speed = 464.0 //Knots True (KTAS)

[autopilot]
autopilot_available= 1
flight_director_available= 1
default_vertical_speed= 800.000
autothrottle_available= 1
autothrottle_arming_required= 0
autothrottle_takeoff_ga= 1
autothrottle_max_rpm= 105.000
pitch_takeoff_ga= 8.000
use_no_default_pitch = 1 // 0 = Default to current pitch mode, 1 = No default pitch mode.
use_no_default_bank = 1 // 0 = Default to Wing Leveler mode, 1 = No default bank mode.

[forcefeedback]
stick_shaker_magnitude=5000 ; 0 - 10000
stick_shaker_direction=0 ; 0 - 35999 degrees
stick_shaker_period=111111 ; in microseconds
gear_bump_nose_magnitude=3000 ; 0 - 10000
gear_bump_nose_direction=18000 ; 0 - 35999 degrees
gear_bump_nose_duration=250000 ; in microseconds
gear_bump_left_magnitude=2700 ; 0 - 10000
gear_bump_left_direction=9000 ; 0 - 35999 degrees
gear_bump_left_duration=250000 ; in microseconds
gear_bump_right_magnitude=2700 ; 0 - 10000
gear_bump_right_direction=27000 ; 0 - 35999 degrees
gear_bump_right_duration=250000 ; in microseconds
ground_bumps_magnitude1=1300 ; 0 - 10000
ground_bumps_angle1=08900 ; 0 - 35999 degrees
ground_bumps_intercept1=3.0
ground_bumps_slope1=0.20
ground_bumps_magnitude2=200 ; 0 - 10000
ground_bumps_angle2=09100 ; 0 - 35999 degrees
ground_bumps_intercept2=1.075
ground_bumps_slope2=0.035
crash_magnitude1=10000 ; 0 - 10000
crash_direction1=35999 ; 0 - 35999 degrees
crash_magnitude2=10000 ; 0 - 10000
crash_direction2=35999 ; 0 - 35999 degrees
crash_period2=75000000 ; in microseconds
crash_duration2=25000000 ; in microseconds

[LIGHTS]
//Types: 1=beacon, 2=strobe, 3=navigation, 4=cockpit
light.0=3, -5.20, -33.20, -0.2, fx_navred ,
light.1=3, -5.20, 33.20, -0.2, fx_navgre ,
light.2=3, -36.29, 0.00, 4.50, fx_navwhi ,
light.3=2, -5.37, -33.30, -0.22, fx_strobe ,
light.4=2, -5.37, 33.30, -0.22, fx_strobe ,
light.5=1, 19.00, 0.00, 7.02, fx_beacon ,
light.6=1, 19.00, 0.00, -2.15, fx_beacon ,
light.7=4, 23.70, 0.00, 2.20, fx_vclighth,

Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 3:50 am Post subject:

I need more than that. I need the complete download zips. The above does nothing for *beep*

Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 6:38 pm Post subject:

http://www.fsfield.com/listfiles.php?search=american+eagle+crj

here it is to download...would you rather me try to attatch all of the files? It wouldn't let me last time I tried to attatch the cfg. i'll do whatever I can to help you help me. thanks.

Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 7:21 pm Post subject:

RD, I took the liberty of trying this one myself, admitted it was in FS9, but I could find absolutly nothing wrong, no warnings, no nothing, made a perfectly good landing.

If you find the same, then it has to be somthing wrong with his install or setup.

Mel.

Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 7:40 pm Post subject:

I see the reference of FS9 a lot...which version exactly is that 2002 or 2004 or fsx?

I actually deleted the airplane and re-installed..same problem

Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 8:47 pm Post subject:

2004 is more often than not refered to as FS9

Mel.