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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 4:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let me know when you get it done, GS.

Otherwise, besides changing where the flights start, I can change the ceiling to 28,000 in the readme. But it still won't help as for the cabin warning, as far as I can tell.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 2:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

groundsquirrel wrote:
- CABIN DIFF-warning light in the Master Warning Panel will be lit if the
pressure differential between outside air and cabin exceeds 6.6 PSI.
- CABIN ALT-warning light in the Master Warning Panel will be lit if the
cabin altitude rises above 12500 feet.


So the CABIN ALT-warning light in the Master Warning Display is nothing more than a reminder that the cabin altitude is above 12,500 and does not necessarily require any action by the pilot. Correct?

My Flight Update:
Eight miles out on approach to Faro, Portugal (LPFR, runway 2Cool, I saved my flight. I've made six landing attempts and have crashed every time! Holy cow! This is one nightmare of a landing! But should have until February 8th (?) to get it right before the next leg is posted.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 2:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bruce............. It's a nightmare landing, I think it was more by luck than judgement, that I made it at the first attempt........ Having said that, I had to get my landing gear checked, it was one hell of a bump, but all is well.

Good luck.............. BTW, I'm still in the Bar Wink

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 3:06 am    Post subject: as I read it... Reply with quote

As I read it, the warnings have to do with keeping the pilot conscious and the aircraft safe. Differential warning for structural and eardrum stability and altitude warning to prevent blackout/hypoxia. So, theoretically, if your cabin press. is maintained properly there should be no warnings. As stated earlier, I know it works but I am still perfecting my technique.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 3:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GS,

FS9 does not account for pilot black-out, white-out, grey-out (you know what I mean). It would be cool if it did. Perhaps one day this could eventually be developed? Especially for fighter aircraft. The screen grey's out, blacks out for a period of time. Vision slowly fizzles back.

Could be a real cooliesta download addon.

Brain Farting.

Jaeg-

I think that it does it has to be selected though, (Want to say pilot red out/black out). This in not to a level of altitude, more maneuvering "G's" inside the aircraft causing the effect rather than hypoxia due to flying the aircraft where it shouldn't be.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 4:03 am    Post subject: you mean... Reply with quote

Do you mean like in Falcon 4.0 Allied Force?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 5:31 am    Post subject: Next stop... Reply with quote

Well... Beech delivery is disappointing me.
After I got off work today I hopped the company Falcon 7X for a short run to Wichita to inspect the packaging of the aircraft.
After landing and reception I was told the aircraft won't be ready for shipping until at least Friday. As unacceptable as I stated it was going to be for that type of a delay they said with coming off the holidays they still had people out and had hoped that everything would be back on schedule by tomorrow so I can take the aircraft on Friday.
So GS it looks like Monday will be paint day.
I lost the free ride on the C-130 to Hurlbert, I may have to use the Web company 747 and truck the airframe from Orlando or Pensacola to Hurlbert.
You will have room in the paint hanger on Monday right?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 5:49 am    Post subject: it is... Reply with quote

It is a sprawling facility even though we have to dodge the odd Herc' doing blacked out touch and go's....which makes for really harrowing night lawn mower racing, but we will have space in the spray booth for it and the assembly floor has all their tools shined up and waiting for ya'. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 4:01 am    Post subject: A Package freighter and a Problem Reply with quote

What a busy week end and the week is off to a good start!
Friday afternoon I was able to catch a UPS hop in a round about manner to Wichita, Kansas to pick up the B300. The reason it was round about is the pilot knew I was not current in the 757-200F freighter so he allowed a couple of detours to touch and go with me in the left seat at Oklahoma City (KOKC) then a bounce at Tulsa Intl, Oklahoma (KTUL) and the final landing to bring me current at McConnell Air Force Base (KIAB) in Wichita, the catch was I had to pay for the extra gas.
Parked the plane on the Boeing side of the field and waited for the escort truck to bring me my crated plane. In short order there was a flurry of activity around the aircraft. Fuel trucks and support gear were all over the tarmac. The main wing packs went in first and got tied down without a problem, but then we started lifting the fuselage pack and it wouldn't make the turn from the scissor lift on to the loading deck, it was to long to fit through the door at the only angles we had to turn it in by about 8 inches. I was disappointed to say the least, but I had a few minutes of looking at the problem and that was enough.
I called Boeing Ops and asked for another scissor lift to be brought to the plane. I asked them to place it forward of the one at the cargo door and get it up to the height we were working at. We ended up using it as a crutch to pull the B300 on to and then push it back into the loading deck, the extra room and different angle was the trick, we were able to slide it in and lock it down.
Checked with the ground crew, signed for the service and fuel, checked with the load master to make sure all was good and climbed back in to the left seat for the flight to Hurlburt Field (KHRT).
The flight was uneventful, nice weather, smooth air and a decent ham sandwich boxed lunch for dinner on the way, but I got those dang "cool ranch" flavored Doritos, I don't like them so I traded for a bag of plain chips.
Landing at Hurlbert was uneventful… Until they saw the UPS paint on the plane… Then it got interesting.
Several radio calls later and I was cleared to land and unload the B300.

GS, did you get a call from a Col. Squire asking you to come retrieve my plane crates before he “F’ing pushed the F’ing thing into the into the F’ing Gulf, for calling in his people on a F’ing Sunday to move a F’ing civilian aircraft that came out of a “F’ing UPS F’ing plane” or something to that effect… I hope so; he seemed rather upset when I spoke to him. I’m sure that the best sprayers are with loving care painting the B300 with Maddie Livery goodness as I speak…
But I couldn’t stay to watch the entire fireworks show. I had to hop the company jet back to KFTW for work today. I’m sure you have taken care of this in due time GS… Right?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 4:22 am    Post subject: funny thing... Reply with quote

As a matter of fact, I did get a call from a very excited shack boss. Something about his hide and he had to go and hide or something like that. Now the really neat thing about moving an aircraft whilst in it's crate is that it is just a teensy weensy bit too wide to move down a US highway without some kind of DOT permit. So we did the next best thing. We uncrated it on the tarmac and loaded it up on the flat-beds to move it over to the shop. One more thing, you owe me for the tipping fee for hauling all that trash to the dump. Something about "you aint leaving all that s**t on my tarmac, now git your civilian a** and your civilian trash the h**l out of here!". I think the next delivery should just be sent by rail, we can pick it up in Pensacola and it will already be DOT packed for over the road. After we get done laughing, we'll get her assembled and into the paint shop. More later.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wait, don't assemble it. I am going to fly it over the pond in a box and have it assembled in England.
So, hopefully I didn't cause to much heartache.
Sounds like I am going to have to build up another set of shipping containers.
But how is the painting going?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 2:52 am    Post subject: Are you holding my painted plane hostage... Reply with quote

Or are you out joy riding in my bird?
I sent the repack crew a week ago, I got a garbled voice mail yesterday about problems with something, a fuchsia colored thong, tong, gong, well something and sounded like another thing having to do an iguana and a pool with a skipper... It's so hard to find good help these days.
When can I come get her, or do I have to take RD's bird from the factory? Twisted Evil

Mel, hope you took a part time job there... Otherwise you own the joint by now... Wink


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 3:02 am    Post subject: it wasnt... Reply with quote

It wasnt a complete assembly...not flyable anyway. The paint work went okay, took a little longer than planned due to the weather. Imron makes very neat 3D effects if you try to lay it down at the wrong temperature.....so we didnt do that. In any case, everything is secured and ready. The air pallets had to be custom built and the tail empenage removed in order to fit standard cargo dimensions for air transport. If you werent in such a damned hurry it could have gone over on a freighter which would have been less of a headache. The boys on the other side of the pond said they could handle the tail refit with no problem so dont worry. Oh.....one more thing.....the factory shipped it with the wrong uhf antenna, the last time I saw one like that was on a '57 Cub. I'll let you deal with that. Now, if there is nothing further, I'd like to go play with my Honda now...... Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 4:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks GS I know there were a few problems, how was I supposed to know it was going to freeze in Florida! It nearly never freezes there for any amount of time. I appreciate the loving care and extra effort you and your crew put in.
As for the antenna, Beech alerted me to that and I have got a crew in wait to install a proper blade once I can get it to MO at the company "fit it hanger" they have there, maybe I'll just have the antenna and parts sent on though. I can install it once I get across the pond, that may be a the better option.
I was able to wrangle the time and load space for C-130 from the NY AFNG so I will be flying it out of Hurlbert on that to Wheeler (KGTB) and cross loading to a different bird then hopefully on to either Gatwick or Heathrow, I might try to press the SurClaro 747 into action for that one hop.
Was the construction suitable for an English Long Lorry or rail flat car? My guys were supposed to make it as such.

Mel, can you do me the favor of letting the Beech folks know there that there has been a delay, and the plan is as above. I have the antenna and required parts for the installation, you are closer to the time zone than I.
I am scheduled to leave KFTW later in the afternoon tomorrow inbound to Hurlbert for the inspection and loading.
After that I won't meet the airplane again until she is in England and hopefully... assembled ready for flight.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 4:27 am    Post subject: standard... Reply with quote

The load out is standard international air/sea dimensions, hence the empenage removal.
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