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Pitch Speed on climb/dec?

 
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 4:29 am    Post subject: Pitch Speed on climb/dec? Reply with quote

Any way to set the FD to pitch speed climbs and decenst?
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 5:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

if you are reffering to the FD in the autopilot.... no. the FD is for Flight Direction... sort of like a secondary heading.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 7:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

let me elaborate... is there a plane out there that used pitch to control speed via the AP? For example, set 250spd on pitch to climb to 10k, throttles go max, aircraft maintains 250knts by pitch control.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 8:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Please elaborate some more because I do not understand your question.

If you want to maintain 250 knots and climb to 10,000 feet, set your Autopilot as follows:

Elevation: 10,000 feet
Air Speed 250 knots
Vertical Speel: pick one or let the autopilot choose one.

If you do the above steps in any aircraft. the Autopilot will use Pitch to accomplish this. Cool Cool
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 11:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doesn't the AP default to 1800vvi, thus using throttle to maintain speed and not pitch?
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 11:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pdpolaski wrote:
let me elaborate... is there a plane out there that used pitch to control speed via the AP? For example, set 250spd on pitch to climb to 10k, throttles go max, aircraft maintains 250knts by pitch control.


To my knowledge there is no aircraft for Flight Simulator that uses pitch to control speed through Auto Pilot inputs.

I'm struggling to read between the lines of your question, because I have a suspicion that you are not getting to the true heart of the matter, unless I'm way off the mark.

Is the basis of your question relative to a particular joystick or keyboard? Or are you referring to the propellar or rotor pitch?

Please restate your question if you can in clearer terms.

In my humble and very junior understanding of flight dynamics, the pitch of an aircraft can affect speed to a large degree, but pitch is definitely not the means by which the speed of an aircraft is best controlled. The use of pitch is certainly useful in aerial combat or stunt flying situations to a large degree, but for commercial or private aircraft, pitch is most often used for take off and landing procedures only: "Rotation" during takeoff and climb out and while "Flaring" on landing.

But many other flight surfaces and controls are used to control speed depending on the situation (take off, cruise, descent, landing). Throttle, mixture, flaps to name just a very, very few.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 4:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The C-17 has a thrust/pitch button for the AT. When you set your airspeed in you can use either pitch control or thrust control. When using thrust, the throttles will adjust to maintain airspeed and your rate of climb/decent is whatever is input into the MC (FMC) or VV wheel on the AP panel. When pitch speed is selected, the throttle is set manually to whatever you want, and the AT works in conjunction with the AP to automatically adjust the pitch of the aircraft (up or down depending) to maintain the selected airspeed during a climb or decent. When the desired alt is reach, it automatically reverts back to thrust mode.

Question is, has anyone made a panel/aircraft that has this type of system in it? Is it possible to put it in FSX?
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 7:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

why would you want that? I'm just curious...
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 4:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

faster climbs/desents, less fuel burn, assault landings/take-offs. I can do it myself, just easier to set the FD up with it.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pdpolaski wrote:
Question is, has anyone made a panel/aircraft that has this type of system in it? Is it possible to put it in FSX?


Now that is the question...
You seem to have knowledge of how the real C-17 works, and this leads to all kinds of questions of why doesn't this sim plane do this.

The simple answer is, you will probably not find this modeled into a freeware aircraft, possibly not even a payware aircraft unless the builder had the knowledge to add it.

But if it can be done... Someone smarter than I would have to speak to that.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 2:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are some aircraft on that "other game" that have this feature. That's why I ask if it's possible in FSX.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 2:56 am    Post subject: well, Reply with quote

Well, it looks like you might be able to have it after all. Check this link out, noted it in AVSIM's news.

http://www.fsxpilot.com/
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 3:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pdpolaski wrote:
There are some aircraft on that "other game" that have this feature. That's why I ask if it's possible in FSX.


That's pretty cryptic... So, I'll ask... What "other game"?
And if it is the one I am thinking of, we have a forum for it.
No real need to be on the down low Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 11:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

aircraft in Xplane come with it default. the only aircraft I can find in FSX with the feature is the LevelD 767 and the PMDG 747. Both are a little expensive.
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