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Swapping Mobo without reinstalling operating systems

 
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 7:22 pm    Post subject: Swapping Mobo without reinstalling operating systems Reply with quote

I plan to switch motherboards to take advantage of SLI technology (finally, lol!) But since I have been using and tweaking Windows XP and Vista (each is installed on one partition; dual-boot operation) for a little over a year now, I really don't want to reformat my entire hard drive. I read somewhere on the web it is possible to retain all of the settings, applications, and documents simply by executing a repair install. However, in this case, this presents some concerns:

  • Will repairing one operating system corrupt the other installation?
  • Windows Vista has a unique repair function in which the Setup program would detect any problems and attempt to repair them.
  • Does the repair function delete all the installed drivers?

Thanks

EDIT: While reading several tutorials online, I came up with another concern. One day, I swapped a Dell motherboard with that of an Emachines and I ran into a BSOD. I figured driver conflicts caused the error. Each tutorial I read instructed me to uninstall any critical drivers related to the motherboard in Safe Mode, then do a repair install.

Is it really necessary to perform a repair even after uninstalling all the critical drivers? Isn't it more wise to simply uninstall the drivers (in safe mode), swap the motherboard, and let Windows install the new drivers WITHOUT doing a repair install?

I bet this kind of "operation" will bring up oodles of problems. Ughhhhh
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've always read that switching a mobo usually requires a reinstall of your operating systems, if you don't want any problems or BSODs. If I were you, I'd back up all my stuff onto another storage medium, and load the files back once my OS was reinstalled, since it's not advisable to keep an OS install after a mobo swap.

I'm pretty sure that if you repair an XP installation, it'll overwrite the Vista Master Boot Record, and you won't be able to boot into Vista until you repair Vista and replace the XP MBR with the Vista MBR.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 3:08 am    Post subject: I'm pretty sure... Reply with quote

I'm pretty sure nothing will happen. Your previous magic smoke extraction was chiefly due to the Dell system. They are bad about proprietary Bios. I swapped my hard-drive to my new mobo setup and all I had to do was let the system recognize the new environment and call MS to restart windows on the new hardware ID.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 5:18 am    Post subject: Re: I'm pretty sure... Reply with quote

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I'm pretty sure nothing will happen. Your previous magic smoke extraction was chiefly due to the Dell system. They are bad about proprietary Bios. I swapped my hard-drive to my new mobo setup and all I had to do was let the system recognize the new environment and call MS to restart windows on the new hardware ID.


Really! It was that simple?

Hmmm I need to read more about this. I'll keep researching. Meanwhile, if any of you have more advice, feel free to give a shout. Thanks so much.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 5:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your question reminded me of a recent computer magazine article regarding the issue. I searched and rummaged around my archive and found it. The magazine is Maximum PC. This is an excerpt taken from a section they have called "Ask the Doctor", where you can e-mail an editor that will *beep* couple questions each month to answer.

Maximum PC's Doctor wrote:

Q: I own a Compaq Presario desktop with an AMD Sempron 3400+ CPU. I want to upgrade to an Athlon 64 X2 CPU, but I first need to upgrade my
motherboard. Will replacing the mobo nuke the factory-installed copy of Windows XP? —Dylan Winn

A: Replacing a motherboard will do nothing to the contents of your hard drive—where Windows XP is installed. You could throw your motherboard off a balcony, buy a new motherboard of the same variety, put your computer back together, and everything would be peachy keen. That said, when you replace your motherboard, you’ll want to reinstall XP. In fact, it’s not really a “you’ll want to” issue so much a it is a “Windows won’t boot” issue. So before your machine is in pieces on the floor, don’t forget to back up your important data!
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 7:25 am    Post subject: heh... Reply with quote

heh....a magazine I never heard of with an anonymous "doctor"....that's where I'd get my advice from. My personal experience is that aint necessarily so. Before swapping the mobo, however, you may want to revert the program back to basic vga drivers to avoid display issues till you set the new drivers for your new adapters. Windows has some amazing self healing powers if ya'll would just let go of the steering wheel from time to time.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 8:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is interesting.

The method described here involves Sysprep, a utility that re-enables the Setup function of Windows XP. Read on for more details:
http://www.techspot.com/vb/topic48387.html

I also found the "deployment tools" for Windows Vista on the Microsoft website. If I execute the same procedure on the Vista partition as well, then both OS's should go through Setup and install the new drivers.

However, I'm still considering the old-fashioned way in which one performs a repair install after backing up crucial data, uninstalling some drivers, and swapping the mainboards.

I am aware of Heeshung's advice: Performing a repair install of Windows XP might erase the MBR and cause Windows XP to become the default OS, therefore rendering Vista unbootable. HOWEVER, I have EasyBCD installed on Windows XP. EasyBCD is simply an emulated Vista bootloader. Since I already have a bootloader programmed into its database, I can allow EasyBCD to RESTORE the Vista bootloader, suppose XP does erase the MBR.

THEN I would do a repair on VISTA.

Wow. What a plan. If any part of this post is confusing, please do tell me, and I will clarify.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whatever you do, I suggest backing up your most valuable data. I'm interested to see what happens.
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