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PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 7:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CessnaPilot09 wrote:
My system runs cool, at about 89 degrees Farenheit usually. While running games, like FS and DOOM3, I can come back to find the temperature a few degrees higher. I'm not sure if heat is a major player in determining the PSU's load, but I do know higher wattages in electronics or electrical devices is usually tagged with heat as a by-product.

P.S. Would anyone be willing to recommend a personal favorite motherboard/CPU/PSU combination? PM me if you've got any suggestions.


Are you planning on a bigger upgrade? What's your budget like and what performance are you looking for?
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 12:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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My system runs cool, at about 89 degrees Fahrenheit usually.

Heat is a by-product of efficiency or more correctly, inefficiency. The less efficient any component is the more heat it gives off in relation to the power being provided to state it in the most basic and general of terms.
Heat and inefficiency is the enemy.
This is why you see super cooled systems done up by the extreme tweakers using liquid nitrogen and liquid helium to cool their systems. They don't need high wattage power supplies and components because electrical/electronic components become more efficient the closer to absolute zero you can get them to.

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P.S. Would anyone be willing to recommend a personal favorite motherboard/CPU/PSU combination? PM me if you've got any suggestions.

Motherboards are a BIG option, with many other options, that option other options. There is not a single answer that can be given in my opinion that can answer that portion of the question alone.

Most people like to think of computers as pieces, and only as pieces (Motherboard, RAM, HDD, CD Graphics Card). The don't normally think about the WHOLE system.
If you don't take the time to learn how one thing may affect another you could have a machine full of big money latest and greatest components, that is going to not work well. Yes, sometimes a simple video card upgrade, or the inclusion of more RAM can make a drastic difference, but not always.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 2:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, I have plan on upgrading (already....), but really all I want is a motherboard with two PCIe slots so I can SLI two video cards, an AM2+ processer bed, and at least 8GB total system memory. If anyone has suggestions for other processers, feel free to tell me. But I lke my 3Ghz AMD.

My budget is very tight right now because I am about to move and need to save for a deposit on another apartment, so I won't be buying anything immediately
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 3:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are tight on money, push for a better processor instead of SLI.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 4:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aw man, but so far I haven't found a processor for the AM2+ Socket that's faster than 3Ghz.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 5:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wait a sec, I forgot about one thing......memory! No, that doesn't mean I need to upgrade my brain's memory (though I wish I could). Laughing

Won't more memory improve graphical performance even though the video card has its own memory?

And what's this I hear about only being able to use 3 gigs maximum memory on XP? Is that tue?

(This topic has went from Power Supplies to Video Power....) Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 6:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The break down with XP is maximum 3 gigs of memory. The architecture of it will not accept anything more than 3 gigs.

To get above that, requires VISTA.

RD

EDIT: This refers to the 32bit XP, not the 64bit XP and VISTA.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rd wrote:
The break down with XP is maximum 3 gigs of memory. The architecture of it will not accept anything more than 3 gigs.

To get above that, requires VISTA.

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Thats only XP x86. XP x64 can do the same.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i didn't read the whole thread thoughtfully but if you system is like mine in my sig, then you'll be fine. I DO recommend getting a Corsair 650w or 750w, I chose the 650w because i'm not going to do SLI. I run everything just fine too. The reason i say Corsair is because they have a lifetime warrenty, usually have rebates, and are built like a tank.

FYI: I just read this yesterday, SLI (with 9800GTX and above) will be bottlenecked by almost any CPU. The only CPUs that can handle the new Nvidia cards in SLI and TRI-SLI are the i7 core Intels. Thought that was pretty interesting.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RD: XP 64 and Vista 64 support more than 3GB's. It's the 32 bit operating systems that don't.

Cessnapilot: Clockspeed isn't everything. It's alot on architecture. Are you planning to "upgrade" on a new computer, or to swap out parts on your old computer to make it better?
If you want SLI, think of at least getting an Intel E8x00 or an Intel quad. If not, then the newer AMD Phenom II's, as these processors are all based on the newer 45nm build.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 9:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

@ T-fish and heeshung......

No kidding guys, I know that. He is also running XP 32 bit, and not 64 bit.

Therefore, my answer is correct. Twisted Evil

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alright, you lost me again. How do we know for sure my OS is 32-bit?
I wouldn't know myself, I don't know how to find out (hint hint....)
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chances are you have a 32-bit operating system if your computer came with 3GB's of RAM or less.

To find out, go to Start -> Run -> type: CMD -> type: systeminfo

When the thing finishes loading, look for the line:

System Type. If it says x86, then it is 32-bit. If it says x64, then it is 64-bit.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 12:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, I'm on it.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you bought this system off the shelf, chances are that it came with a 32 bit OS, OEM's are simply not going to spend the money on a 64 bit OS unless you requested it.
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