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PostPosted: Fri Aug 27, 2004 5:49 am    Post subject: What would you like to see in the next flight simulator? Reply with quote

I personally have been thru all of the Flight Simulator from Microsoft since FS 1. There have been alot of changes... if you are new to the flight sim... then you might want to see where it all started... and then add to where you might want to see it go to. I would love to see some of the following...

1. More natural and national/worldwide landmarks. Example...

Waterfalls... Angel falls Venezuela - Tallest waterfall in the world.

Disneyland... California - Where did it go?

Devil's Tower... Wyoming - Not Devil's Mound!!!

Christ Statue... Rio De Janeiro - Where did he go?

These are just a few I would like to see added. Also would be nice to see traffic of some sort on the roads at low altitudes. More trees and bushes would also be nice. Any more great ideas? Below is a link you can go to where you can see where it all began and where it currently is... the page appears to be under construction but still will make you very much appriciative of what you see today in the Microsoft Flight Simulator.

http://simflight.com/~fshistory/fsh/start.htm
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 27, 2004 9:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your request's can quite Easily be acomplisted already in FS2004 just need to look around and find them.

As for the Next version of Flight Sim *Rolls our huge list* These debates go on for ages there's many things I would like the next version to have.

Microsoft is seems to still find it hard to take our idea's and put them into the next realease, Hopefully the next version will live and to expectations.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 27, 2004 9:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

better default cockpits..as this years cockpits are lame.

possibility to see aircraft interior...just like in melvin rafis planes.

upgraded weather...or better weather that doesnt kill yr frame rates.
better ATC.

i really dont care too much about the default panles as the addons from all the great fellow simmers are so much better Very Happy

it would be also nice to request emergency landings.

the possibility to have more failures during flight...
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 27, 2004 10:01 am    Post subject: up to expectations? Reply with quote

Personally, I find it hard to keep up with everything FS has to offer, it seems that I no sooner get a handle on the programs features and we're off and running to the next version. After all the debate about what to add to the next version, there has to be one thing that would absolutely enhance the experience. Please allow aircraft to fly as close as a foot apart. With multiplayer coming into its own as the WWW matures, can you imagine some REAL formation flying and dogfighting? Wouldnt you like to roll in nice and close to some of the AI aircraft and others? How about that tower flyby being close enough to read the radar scopes yourself? Two by two alert takeoffs anyone?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 27, 2004 11:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

isnt CFS for dogfights ???

i sometimes fly military equipment in FS2004 but only freighters....no fighters

imo they dont belong to the civil FS

on the other hand ...sounds quite good to have that
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 27, 2004 12:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

a better flight planner with a larger screen.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 27, 2004 1:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd like to see a link (on the create a flight menu) between the aircraft start location and the AFCAD .bgls. If you have AFCAD installed and have your AI setup to use the actual gate numbers that the real world airlines use, it'll say:

GATE 24 HEAVY AAL
GATE 25 MEDIUM AAL AAX
GATE 26 MEDIUM USA
RAMP 11 CARGO UPS

That way for us realism freaks, you don't enter the sim with a COA parked in the NWA gates.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 27, 2004 4:05 pm    Post subject: Re: up to expectations? Reply with quote

groundsquirrel wrote:
Personally, I find it hard to keep up with everything FS has to offer, it seems that I no sooner get a handle on the programs features and we're off and running to the next version. After all the debate about what to add to the next version, there has to be one thing that would absolutely enhance the experience. Please allow aircraft to fly as close as a foot apart. With multiplayer coming into its own as the WWW matures, can you imagine some REAL formation flying and dogfighting? Wouldnt you like to roll in nice and close to some of the AI aircraft and others? How about that tower flyby being close enough to read the radar scopes yourself? Two by two alert takeoffs anyone?


That's how I view it, The specs are rather high for it's time a lot of people don't run FS2004 at peek performance. This is frustrating cause I practically had to buy a new computer to run FS2004 alone.

So a more computer friendly program is what is needed otherwise it will be a long wait for me(and many others), cause we will need a whole new rig just to run it.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 27, 2004 10:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

id want to see real airlines put in the game
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 9:00 am    Post subject: Re: up to expectations? Reply with quote

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That's how I view it, The specs are rather high for it's time a lot of people don't run FS2004 at peek performance. This is frustrating cause I practically had to buy a new computer to run FS2004 alone.

So a more computer friendly program is what is needed otherwise it will be a long wait for me(and many others), cause we will need a whole new rig just to run it.


John, I hate to say it, but that I am just the opposite. I hate that they make it TOO friendly for older computers. Max this bad boy out. People will adjust. I bought a new computer system JUST for use with fs9. I maxed this thing out so that I could play with full reallism and all settings on high. Which I do. And yet, there are many things that don't exist in the program because it would kill lesser computers. PHFT!!!!!

I want full AI and ATC in multi-player. I want moving cars, real water vehicles , etc.. I want my computers internal temp to rise 50 degrees from all the graphics and effects. I will get a temp job for a month to pay the 1000.00 for a new computer when I need to upgrade again.

DON'T give up incredible features for the sake of people that don't feel like upgrading. NOTE: This computer that I have stock with unreal graphics and sound system cost me 600.00 with no monitor or dvd recorder. A bit more when I added those. Call DELL. They destroy every other companies prices. Their service is unreal and second to none. And I have tried to destroy this computer with apps/games/etc.. but have yet to come close. So I don't want to hear it is too expensive. You can work at a fast food restraunt part time and make enough for a new computer in 4 weeks. But of course, that would mean people actually have to work for something...and we know that won't be happening.

So, my solution would be go back to the 2 version format. one version with crap for people that don't want to upgrade and buy new systems, and one version for even double the price (I'd easily pay 100 bucks for a version with what I want in it, in it...) for those of us that DEMAND and DESIRE the absolute BEST and will find a way to get it.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love the great ideas from Groundsquirrel and Rick Tobin!!! Yeah, choice of parking according to aircraft/airline. Formation flying...right on!

How about allowing training flights to be filed and flown just like regular flight plans? Currently you can only fly from one airport to another for a flightplan to be valid no? I just installed CAF Military flightplans for Canada and am trying to get the a/c to fly training loops around their respective airports...lots of errors but I think I can do it.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Add my vote for more user freindly.

I think semi detailed weather with realistic amount of ATC traffic should be something the average computer should be able to handle.

I have seriously thought of re-installing fs02 and run everything to full and see what happens.

My biggest complaint with FS9 is that (IMO) it's not THAT much of an upgrade as it is a hit to your frame rates.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MS should try to make a version with greater customization to the graphics setttings. Right now, say, you have an "scenery complexity" slider. But wouldnt it be great if you had more choices, say, low complexity, but with airport signs there? Or could add more city buildings, but at the same time keep airport buildings at minimums? I really think that if MS could come up with a game that would allow PC nuts like Spectro to go out and buy a brand new computer to max out the features, but at the same time allow me to keep my laptop running, MS would sell far more copies faster, than preventing Spectropro's species from getting full enjoyment by running a low graphics sim, or by puttig out a high graphics sim that would leave me by the wayside crying my eyes out.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 8:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You could never max out Gregs Department of Defence computer! I feel M/S should design F/S for a MID system to run MID settings, MID HIGH comps run at MAX settings, MID LOW comps run at LOW settings, & Gerg like people can put 1000s of AI A/C, Active Sky, ect...
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ID: I love your ideas. There should be 1 or 2 entire pages of options for graphic settings. I totally agree with that. Give the user full control over what they want to see and how well. This would be HUGE. And very simple to do, since the program makes the settings itself, why not add sliders for the user to do it.

Paulvil: Why do I have to be a Gerg? lmao!!! Twisted Evil

Exx: I would LOVE it if you could program round the airport flights for AI. That would be great as you could then set AI to fly around known flight schools.

As I said, I wish they went back to the multi-versions of FS. Make one where the min system is a 9800pro with 256megs, 4 gigs ram, pentium 4 multi processors, etc... Allow people that WANT the unreal stuff the option to have it. And allow those that don't want it, a version where it runs on low systems.
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