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pixmike  New Forum Member Joined: 14 Sep 2002 Total posts: 9 Location: Quebec, Canada Gender: Unknown
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Hello fellow pilot !
How can I figure out the right angle of a runway, for a landing, from, let's say, 30 miles from the airport. From the map view, I approach a certain airport, but I never know how to position my plane for the right approach, I'm often way too far left, or right, and by the time I correct my path, It's too late to land. What's the trick ?
Thanks a lot in advance!
Crazy canuck Mike |
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ZizNew Forum Member Gender: Unknown
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Depends on how you run FS, as a game or as a training tool.
If you run it strictly as a game, then the easiest way to get yourself lined up is to use the Top Down View mode. That's a scrolling map. Hit [ALT], Views menu, Options...then set the map to give you a wide enough view that you can see the airfield. Keep switching back and forth from Top Down view to Cockpit view to get yourself lined up.
If you're training for a real license (as I am), do it VFR (visual flight rules). Buzz the airport once from outside or above the pattern so you can see where you'll be landing and how you need to adjust your heading before you make your actual approach. |
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pixmikeNew Forum Member Joined: 14 Sep 2002 Total posts: 9 Location: Quebec, Canada Gender: Unknown
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Hi Ziz ! Thanks for the quick answer...I mostly run as a game, but slowly I try to do it more realistic. I'll try your your stuff soon.
Do you know a good airport, where I could see a lot of ground vehicules, planes, gates, etc... Something big. I went to O'hare, London, J.F. Kennedy, Paris...The big cities ! But I'm sure there's better ones out there!
Thanks for your time,
Mike |
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ZizNew Forum Member Gender: Unknown
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Well as I said, I'm training for a real license, so I generally only take off in FS from my home airport, KFRG, and occasionally make stops at JFK or La Guardia. In the real world, LGA is more of a business airport, where JFK is more of a commercial airport. You might want to try turning your AI traffic settings up to full and fly La Guardia. Dulles/Reagan in D.C., ATL in Georgia and LAX in California would probably also be good choices for busy airports.
Here's some shots crusing past LGA and Shea Stadium, but I have AI traffic set pretty low, so it's a fairly quiet day on the ground. I also have the LGA upgrade graphics from here but have yet to get them installed. |
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7e72005New Forum Member Joined: 23 Apr 2005 Total posts: 33 Location: Lincoln MA Gender: Male
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Well I just so happened to know some things about this from my pilot friend. Well when ATC say to land on runway 4L they really mean 40* to the left of your position. Here is a list to help you:
Runway 4L=40* left of your position
Runway 4R=40* right of your position
Runway 11= 110* on compus
Runway 5=50* on compus
And so on.
KEY
*= degreas
Well I hope that helps you.  |
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Max SurClaro senior forum member Joined: 10 Dec 2004 Total posts: 673 Location: LQSA Age: 43 Gender: Male
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| Quote: | Runway 4L=40* left of your position
Runway 4R=40* right of your position |
 That's not how it goes. The only reason there are L and R marks is when there are two runways at the same heading and they must be names differently. The left one and the right one...doesn't really have any connection to the aircraft position. It will always have the same name.
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Max |
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groundsquirrel Forum Moderator - Master member Joined: 10 Mar 2004 Total posts: 3650 Location: Navarre,Florida-USA (KVPS,KHRT,KPNS) Age: 46 Gender: Male
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| As to the right runway approach angle, take the time to do the instrument training lessons in Flight Simulator. The proper use of the instruments will have you lined up properly nearly every time. It takes time and practice, just like a musical instrument. You should set yourself a training schedule and stick to it. With as little as 3 committed hours a week, you will be doing it to your satisfaction in no time. |
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wheelright SurClaro.com Regular Forum Member Joined: 15 May 2004 Total posts: 169 Location: KDNL/KAGS Age: 57 Gender: Male
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Something else needs correcting here. While business traffic can use KLGA, it is primarily used by commercial carriers. In fact, twice this year, I sat for hours on the ground in the middle of all that commercial traffic.
Most NY business traffic use Teterboro, Westchester or one of the many other airports surrounding NYC.
Mike, you ought to take a look at the learning center as GS suggested. The basic flying lessons definitely get you through the basics. Without them you are barely scratching the surface of FS9. You're really missing all the fun.  |
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skipperdanForum Moderator - Master member Joined: 10 Aug 2003 Total posts: 1195 Location: Florida Age: 62 Gender: Male
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There is no doubt that taking the Lessons are the best way to learn how to fly. I also encourage you to visit your local library or book store and obtain some books on aviation. I have about 20 or 30 in my collection (fortunately, my father sells used books about antique firearms and whenever he goes to a garage sale, he looks for books about aviation and sends them down to me).
The easiest way to approach a runway from the correct direction is to use the GPS. File a Flight Plan or else specify a Destination Airport. Next, choose the PROCEDURE icon to choose an APPROACH. While your are still in your Learning Curve, you will probably wish to select the option for VECTORS. This option will provide you with a straight in route to the runway of your choice (or the runway that ATC assigns to you). Don't forget to ACTIVE the approach (when your get close to the runway) so that the GPS will display the path for you to follow.  |
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andyaudeNew Forum Member Joined: 24 Jun 2005 Total posts: 19 Location: United States Gender: Male
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| pixmike wrote: | Hello fellow pilot !
How can I figure out the right angle of a runway, for a landing, from, let's say, 30 miles from the airport. From the map view, I approach a certain airport, but I never know how to position my plane for the right approach, I'm often way too far left, or right, and by the time I correct my path, It's too late to land. What's the trick ?
Thanks a lot in advance!
Crazy canuck Mike |
I would first try to use the instructor part and try the landing lesson a couple of times. Then if your comfortable with landing you can use a device to help you land on the runway. To use it you will need to find a gauge with 2 toothpick like things crossing each other on the panel,it will have a nob sticking out that says OBS. If you've found this you can use a thing called the ILS(instrument landing system) which tells you if you are too high or too low to make the runway, to far left to make the runway or to far right to make the runway. This is sometimes hard to master and when your new to flying and you shouldnt depend on it for now. In order to get it to give you reading on how to make the runway you want to land on, you should go to the toolbar and go to WORLD, then MAP. click in the center of the airport you want to fly to and then scroll down a list to see all the availible runways and if they have an ILS. If your runway does you can just tune the frequincy of it into the nav part of radio page. Only try to mess with the ils if you are ready. |
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