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Rhythmosaur  SurClaro senior forum member Joined: 10 Jan 2004 Total posts: 705 Location: Oppenheim (EDGP) / Germany (near EDDF Frankfurt/Main) Gender: Unknown
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Okay, thank you.
If I understood correctly, you think it is a practise problem and not one of my settings.
You probably read my latest rewiew about the UH-1H Iroquois. I suggested to turn down realism for beginners, and that was what I did in my second of 2 test sessions whith this heli. I found it even a bit harder to fly than the default jet ranger (but I am not sure because I never flow the Jetranger with crosswind). I realised it to be easier. But how can I learn to cope with the problems when I switch them off? Don't you think I would teach myself bad habbits if I treat it this way? What do you think? Did you learn it that way or didn't you have that problems?
Thanks for your answer
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Insured Disaster  Forum Moderator - Master member Joined: 16 Dec 2003 Total posts: 616 Location: Colorado Gender: Unknown
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well look at it this way. In realife, one has an instructor guiding them every step of the way. When I atarted flying helos in FS. I could not fly them at all. So I turned down the realism settings. I thought that FS should be fun. It was an uphill battle, but evetually I could fly in the air. Then land. So many hours later, I thought, well, lets try hard. I tried and I could fly but it was very difficult. But still, I could do it. So then I backed down to medium. Thats where I am now. So yes, I can fly in the hard setting, but it is hard. I really think that for me, my way works. Once you get smoothe in easy, then go to medium, then hard. But remember, FS should be fun. No insurance issues. No fuel costs. No crashes. So if you turn down the realism settings, is that illegal?
Another way to look at the realism settings is to see them as three different planes in one. Easy= trainer. Medium= Advanced trainer, Hard= The real thing?
By the way, this may seem a bit weird, but views have a lot to do with hovering and landing. If you do not already have one, try a joystick with a POV hat switch. Also use the Virtual cockpit. Back the view off to around 50%. this gives you a nice and pretty realiztic field of view. You will need to practice looking at other directions then forward. Use the Shift+Z command to bring up the alitude, heading, and airspeed readout. In a real helicopter, or airplane, or any vehicle, even a bike, one can look at the ground or other things and see how high they are and how fast you are going. In FS, it is difficult to judge that by the ground. So I do not consider the Shift+Z command cheating, as it makes up for a regretable short fall in FS.
Try that and let me know what you think!
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Rhythmosaur  SurClaro senior forum member Joined: 10 Jan 2004 Total posts: 705 Location: Oppenheim (EDGP) / Germany (near EDDF Frankfurt/Main) Gender: Unknown
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Ah, high again. I wouldn't have guessed that this huge site is so small
Okay now, I think you're right. I obvously take it to serious. But you don't yet know the thing that really leads my ego to the doorstep mark. My overall log reaches slowly but sincerly now 900 hours of sim flying - since fall 2002, but I still could not convince Mrs King to give me the PPL though I stay within the limits given when I have to perform a sharp turn in the check ride. Yes, I know there is a fault in the checkride algorythm and if you don't make your sharp turn exactly there were the program wants you to, she tells you to carry on practicing. I made it with the glider in real life and passed, you see, without an engine, but Mrs King just dont't want to let me pass !
This morning I tested another helicopter - one to forget really, I won't write about it... huge panel you don't see a thing, pixely inside textues an non-transparent windows. Only the panel arrangement and the sound were good.
I remembered what you posted and turned realism off. My aim was no realistic flight anyway but I wanted to check out a new scenery and get a first impression of this heli.
I realized no ground effect, no turning, nothing. I even moved my hands off the joystick and this helis climbed constanly at zero knots. Sorry, this is much to easy. Would you agree this was a "fault" of this particular modell or
would this happen with others, too? I am a bit very busy so I did not figure this out by myself...
Ya Rhythmo
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Insured Disaster  Forum Moderator - Master member Joined: 16 Dec 2003 Total posts: 616 Location: Colorado Gender: Unknown
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perhaps you should put the realism a bit higher. Yes it is much smoother though. I created a model helo however and then stated fooling around with the R22 cfg file to get a feel as too how the things are set up. The rotor is often placed dead over the cg. This makes easy hovering but the helo will pitch up in flight. I moved the rotor back and now it requires more work hovering, but will maintian whatever attitude you put it in when moving foreward. So the Helo might be either a "hoverer" or a "flyer." So move up the realism up until you are at a "challenge" level. Then fly till it becomes easy. Try that.  |
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Rhythmosaur  SurClaro senior forum member Joined: 10 Jan 2004 Total posts: 705 Location: Oppenheim (EDGP) / Germany (near EDDF Frankfurt/Main) Gender: Unknown
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Your advice just begins to pay off. Thanx a lot.
Rhythmo |
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Sinan  Junior SurClaro Member Joined: 13 Mar 2004 Total posts: 85 Location: LQTZ Gender: Unknown
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| swishflow wrote: | hey ... i dont have a joystick i use my keyoard and i cant get the heli into the air i want a joystick i just need it cheap if asnyone can tell me where i can get a cheap joystick cheers |
Increase throtle with F3 key, decrease with F2.
You can get 20$ saitek joystick with throtle(Me got it:D) at Walmart |
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lortiawhak  SurClaro senior forum member Joined: 16 Mar 2004 Total posts: 786 Location: somewhere... Age: 3 Gender: Male
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do you have any idea how old the posts you are replying to are!?!
just kidding. |
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Sinan  Junior SurClaro Member Joined: 13 Mar 2004 Total posts: 85 Location: LQTZ Gender: Unknown
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Oh yea, know I see.
Well, as you can see my join date, I'm fairly new.
It's not bad to help someone. |
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schildpad  Junior SurClaro Member Joined: 02 Jun 2004 Total posts: 55 Location: Netherlands Gender: Unknown
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1. You need a joystick
2. try this helciopter bell47gmaxskids_txt_107590 (search add surclaro)
It is a very easy helicopter |
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Jery  Junior SurClaro Member Joined: 18 Mar 2004 Total posts: 66 Gender: Unknown
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lazlo123  Junior SurClaro Member Joined: 26 Sep 2003 Total posts: 84 Gender: Unknown
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| maybe its just me, and i mean no offense at all, its just, should one be writing reviews about something they are not proficient at flying? maybe there's more to it than just that... oh well... |
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Jery  Junior SurClaro Member Joined: 18 Mar 2004 Total posts: 66 Gender: Unknown
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| lazlo123 wrote: | | maybe its just me, and i mean no offense at all, its just, should one be writing reviews about something they are not proficient at flying? maybe there's more to it than just that... oh well... |
You' re right. Just telling him where to go for help.That's what I did, and I' m getting the hang of it. |
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lazlo123  Junior SurClaro Member Joined: 26 Sep 2003 Total posts: 84 Gender: Unknown
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Cool, i actually wasn't referring to you though Jery
I was referring to the green fonted one  |
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skipperdan  Forum Moderator - Master member Joined: 10 Aug 2003 Total posts: 1193 Location: Florida Age: 62 Gender: Male
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