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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2004 5:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay, thank you.
If I understood correctly, you think it is a practise problem and not one of my settings.
You probably read my latest rewiew about the UH-1H Iroquois. I suggested to turn down realism for beginners, and that was what I did in my second of 2 test sessions whith this heli. I found it even a bit harder to fly than the default jet ranger (but I am not sure because I never flow the Jetranger with crosswind). I realised it to be easier. But how can I learn to cope with the problems when I switch them off? Don't you think I would teach myself bad habbits if I treat it this way? What do you think? Did you learn it that way or didn't you have that problems?
Thanks for your answer

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2004 3:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well look at it this way. In realife, one has an instructor guiding them every step of the way. When I atarted flying helos in FS. I could not fly them at all. So I turned down the realism settings. I thought that FS should be fun. It was an uphill battle, but evetually I could fly in the air. Then land. So many hours later, I thought, well, lets try hard. I tried and I could fly but it was very difficult. But still, I could do it. So then I backed down to medium. Thats where I am now. So yes, I can fly in the hard setting, but it is hard. I really think that for me, my way works. Once you get smoothe in easy, then go to medium, then hard. But remember, FS should be fun. No insurance issues. No fuel costs. No crashes. So if you turn down the realism settings, is that illegal?

Another way to look at the realism settings is to see them as three different planes in one. Easy= trainer. Medium= Advanced trainer, Hard= The real thing?

Shocked By the way, this may seem a bit weird, but views have a lot to do with hovering and landing. If you do not already have one, try a joystick with a POV hat switch. Also use the Virtual cockpit. Back the view off to around 50%. this gives you a nice and pretty realiztic field of view. You will need to practice looking at other directions then forward. Use the Shift+Z command to bring up the alitude, heading, and airspeed readout. In a real helicopter, or airplane, or any vehicle, even a bike, one can look at the ground or other things and see how high they are and how fast you are going. In FS, it is difficult to judge that by the ground. So I do not consider the Shift+Z command cheating, as it makes up for a regretable short fall in FS.

Try that and let me know what you think!
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2004 12:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah, high again. I wouldn't have guessed that this huge site is so small Laughing

Okay now, I think you're right. I obvously take it to serious. But you don't yet know the thing that really leads my ego to the doorstep mark. My overall log reaches slowly but sincerly now 900 hours of sim flying - since fall 2002, but I still could not convince Mrs King to give me the PPL though I stay within the limits given when I have to perform a sharp turn in the check ride. Yes, I know there is a fault in the checkride algorythm and if you don't make your sharp turn exactly there were the program wants you to, she tells you to carry on practicing. I made it with the glider in real life and passed, you see, without an engine, but Mrs King just dont't want to let me pass Evil or Very Mad Twisted Evil Evil or Very Mad !

This morning I tested another helicopter - one to forget really, I won't write about it... huge panel you don't see a thing, pixely inside textues an non-transparent windows. Only the panel arrangement and the sound were good.

I remembered what you posted and turned realism off. My aim was no realistic flight anyway but I wanted to check out a new scenery and get a first impression of this heli.

I realized no ground effect, no turning, nothing. I even moved my hands off the joystick and this helis climbed constanly at zero knots. Sorry, this is much to easy. Would you agree this was a "fault" of this particular modell or
would this happen with others, too? I am a bit very busy so I did not figure this out by myself...

Ya Rhythmo

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2004 1:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

perhaps you should put the realism a bit higher. Yes it is much smoother though. I created a model helo however and then stated fooling around with the R22 cfg file to get a feel as too how the things are set up. The rotor is often placed dead over the cg. This makes easy hovering but the helo will pitch up in flight. I moved the rotor back and now it requires more work hovering, but will maintian whatever attitude you put it in when moving foreward. So the Helo might be either a "hoverer" or a "flyer." So move up the realism up until you are at a "challenge" level. Then fly till it becomes easy. Try that. Shocked
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2004 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your advice just begins to pay off. Thanx a lot.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 18, 2004 11:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

swishflow wrote:
hey ... i dont have a joystick i use my keyoard and i cant get the heli into the air Confused i want a joystick i just need it cheap if asnyone can tell me where i can get a cheap joystick cheers


Increase throtle with F3 key, decrease with F2.

You can get 20$ saitek joystick with throtle(Me got it:D) at Walmart
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 19, 2004 1:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

do you have any idea how old the posts you are replying to are!?!
just kidding.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 19, 2004 3:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh yea, know I see. Embarassed
Well, as you can see my join date, I'm fairly new.

It's not bad to help someone.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2004 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1. You need a joystick
2. try this helciopter bell47gmaxskids_txt_107590 (search add surclaro)

It is a very easy helicopter
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2004 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey!
You should join http://www.hovercontrol.com/!
Only for helicopters.

And for how to fly helis check this out:

http://www.avsim.com/pages/0604/heli/helitutorial.htm

I' m learning to fly helicopters too. I can fly one with the default settings and am moving up slowly increasing the (giro, etc...)

They have a lot of helicopter downloads on Hovercontrol. I like the Firehawk.

Here' s me while we were doing a mission with their software that generates missions.
http://www.orgsites.com/al/gerrybeylerian/1.jpg
Very Happy

Bye
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2004 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

maybe its just me, and i mean no offense at all, its just, should one be writing reviews about something they are not proficient at flying? maybe there's more to it than just that... oh well...
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2004 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lazlo123 wrote:
maybe its just me, and i mean no offense at all, its just, should one be writing reviews about something they are not proficient at flying? maybe there's more to it than just that... oh well...


You' re right. Just telling him where to go for help.That's what I did, and I' m getting the hang of it.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2004 9:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cool, i actually wasn't referring to you though Jery Smile
I was referring to the green fonted one Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2004 9:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Check out this link. I just printed it out today and plan to read it tonight Cool

http://www.avsim.com/pages/0604/heli/helitutorial.htm
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