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PostPosted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the suggestions. Believe me, I wouldn't run anything but FS2004 and maybe a PIC type jet on my last rig. This one can take anything I throw at it.

I use IE if for no other reason than I hate all browsers and want to minimize my time tweaking. Keep in mind I was an original beta tester for Mozilla; I've used a few browsers in my time. I like Firefox, but IE is a least-common-denominator type of thing for me - it's like my toaster - I just use it as an appliance, and it offers no excitement.

Now, Photoshop - that's another story! Why load a background screen capture util that hogs memory when Windows has its own screenshot utility in the form of the PrintScreen key?

Here's my procedure: When I see a great shot, I just hit PrintScreen. Then I pause, ALT-TAB to Photoshop, and hit CTRL-N for New document. That gives me an empty window dimensioned exactly like the clipboard/screenshot. All I have to do after that is hit Paste. Then I can resize my image, crop if necessary, convert to JPG and save on the HD. All happens in about ten or fifteen seconds, as long as there's no editing.

Keep in mind, I use photoshop for resizing, format conversion, and saving on the fly. Windows XP provides the screen capture utility.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 2:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use the same procedure, but since I cant afford Photoshop I use PaintBrush instead! It works fine even though I keep it open in the background. (My ram size is 1 GB) However I have very few other programs open in the background. I have used smartclose and found it useful.

And 9l, why do you have swap files on each drive? I believe it is better to have one single swap file on a different Physical drive than the one that holds your OS. This helps your system to access the OS and the swapfile simultaneously I think. And have your VM on a partition that is the least fragmented and dont let Windows manage your Swap file size. Set the minimum and maximum swap file sizes to the same value. Say for example, Initial size (MB) =512, Maximum size (MB) =512. This makes the system reserve on contigous area of the disk for the swapfile. (By the way, once I did run for a few days with 0 swap file size by mistake and I couldnt find many ill effects. I set it back to 350 MB though because I was not very confident... Very Happy )
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shankar, is the Virtual Memory responsible for this? So if my OS in on drive C, then I put the VM all on drive E, for example?
BTW, it happened again at the same place, and same milage Crying or Very sad

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry 9L I really do not know what is causing your problem. I have not even used FSPassengers. I was merely wondering why you need swap files on all your partitions.

And yes if your E: is a different physical drive (not just a prtition on the same physical drive as C: ) then moving your swap file there could help a bit. And as Tenspace said dont ever have too large a Swap file size. In fact dont let Windows manage your swap file size. Set it yourself and set the min and max values same so that the system reserves that much of space for the file. Sort of prevents it from getting fragmented and keeps everything together.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Leave Windows XP on your faster drive and FS2004 on the slower drive. Keep the page file on the faster drive.
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Shankar, do you mean I should not set the Swap Page file size higher?? Why not??

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 7:15 pm    Post subject: its the video card Reply with quote

THIS IS THE VIDEO CARD 100% sure i had this problem i changed it and nw wrks like a beauty
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

09El_Boissevain wrote:
Shankar, do you mean I should not set the Swap Page file size higher?? Why not??

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NO! Too much VM is NOT a good idea. First of all, VM is that space in your hard drive which the computer uses "like" RAM. And compared to your RAM your HDD is way too slow. So if you have a large amount of VM I believe a lot of stuff that could have resided in RAM and thus been available to the prcessor quickly would get shunted to VM and thus would slow the system down. In your case I would believe that with the amount of RAM you have, you can probably get by comfortably with about 300 or 350MB of VM tops. You see I have the same 1 GB of RAM and I did manage to get by with no VM for a few days (though I did it by mistake!).

Again, I repeat, that I dont know if your current problem is caused by VM. As Alex pointed out it could be your AGP card (or PCI-E card) or the driver or something.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, so I set it back to recommended? By the way, this problem NEVER happened before, except once but then I never heard of it again. Some odd occasions, I could make a 16hr journey without problems, now a 3hr journey causes problems Question Question

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shankar, i dont think this is the case. VM is separated enough from ram and xp should be very competent to use RAM and VM and prefer RAM where possible. i dont think it uses them randomly.

Capt. El, it actually seems like You have done something with Your computer. Installed new drivers, downloaded "cool free smilies, click here" etc. have You? or anything big for fs? or illegal p2p?
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Capt. El, it actually seems like You have done something with Your computer. Installed new drivers, downloaded "cool free smilies, click here" etc. have You? or anything big for fs? or illegal p2p?

Not that I know of. I just downloaded a few iFDG planes and looked over to some payware 737 series (although I haven't bought any yet; I might be interested in doing that). I downloaded AYPY scenery and Rio de Janerio and that's it, I guess...

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 8:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey, I think this can also happen, if your page file is corrupt due to a bad shutdown or something. If this is the case you can follow this simple procedure.

First in VM settings set for no page file and then shutdown the system.

Reboot system and then from each drive manually delete pagefile.sys if present(Make sure that the system is configured to show hidden and protected operating system files in folder options.).

Reset your VM settings to whatever you want, reboot once again and proceed.
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Ok, I will try that, but will my system create that file again once rebooted or whenever?

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes after you reset your pagefile settings once you reboot the system, it will recreate your pagefiles for you!
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