SurClaro Flight Simulator Resources

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2004 10:58 pm Post subject:

WHOO HOO!!! I NAILED IT!!!! Thanx guys!!! I saw that you had to hit approach before the indicator on the altimeter got to center.

My plan is to fly around the world starting in vancouver and collecting "heavys" of the perticular country as I go. I'm using real time weather so I had to be sure I could land in the soup.

Thanx for all yur help!

Let the adventure begin!!!!

Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2004 6:54 am Post subject:

@skipperdan: Sorry, I did'n know that (What is FSNavigator BTW?)
@KMUltra: That's why ATC advices you to hold a specific height, e.g "Maintain 5000 untill established on the localizer" for Munich EDDM. If you follow this order, you will find yourself below the actual glidepath. When the plane aligns and you hit APPR, the plane will keep up following the path and maintaining the height untill you see the glidepath indicator coming down to the right spot. Then ALT automatically disengages and AP followes the path.

I now definitively decided to make a guide with screenshots. Will take some time, but why always linking up to others if we can offer it here? SurClaro is our home, so why not installing all we need here? Twisted Evil

The Rhythmosaur

Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2004 9:29 am Post subject:

That sounds great! you can use a program called FRAPS to capture a movie and add a teaching dialogue. you could also use Adobe premiere to edit and add music or whatever.

If you need any help, I'd be glad to give a helping hand.

Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2004 11:32 am Post subject:

Ha,ha,ha! But you forget something: I want to post it HERE!

Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2004 2:17 pm Post subject:

OH MY GOLLY GEE WILLICERS.

What rock did you just crawl from, my dearest Rhythmosaur?

For you, and any of those who also have not heard of a pretty nice pluggin for FS, the site is www.fsnavigator.com. This pluggin is both a planning map, a complex (operating, not complex to use) autopilot, and even cooler, it can be "plugged in" to multiplayer games (providing you have the IP adress) and can be used as a sort of a radar. Altitude, speed and player name are displayed for each airplane. Great if you want to serve as ATC. Its a great program. You can try it for free for like 10 or 20 times. After that you can buy it for $30US I think. However, every so many customers (30 maybe?) its free, so it might be your lucky day.

This should probably be in the review section, but I consider it to be a "public service announcement" for those who have not heard of it. Ask your doctor today if FS Nav is for you. Possible side effects might include: a lighter wallet, elation for flight planning ease, awe with the radar feature, and other side effects not mentioned here. Go to fsnavigator.com today for your free sample!

LOL Shocked

Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2004 7:57 am Post subject:

i still don't get it Sad

Posted: Sat May 01, 2004 6:37 am Post subject: HELP ME!!!

Hey im an 8th Grader in Budapest Hungary because my dad got a job here. anyways.

i've been landing with cessna's and those light planes but whenever i land with a 747 or sum boeing i always cant line up with the runway because the 747 turns so slowly unlike cessnas. also, if i go too slowly the plane stalls and lands like a mile short of the runway.

can anybody tell me step by step, how to land a 747? and make sure it doesnt have any terms like ILS or Heading Box because I don't know what those are Crying or Very sad

. if u do use those terms then tell me what they are. thnx Very Happy

Posted: Sat May 01, 2004 1:35 pm Post subject:

Hey myheadspinsincircles, an easy way to look at your problem would be comparing a VW Beetle to a fully loaded semi truck. You can turn the VW really easy in very little space. The semi however, requires much more space to complete a turn. Same goes for the cessna and 747.

You've obviously made attempts at landing the 747, I'd say to continue and each time increase your distance from the airport before you begin your turn to final approach, eventually you'll figure it out. One way to get an idea of when to begin your turn, so you can see it yourself would be to allow auto pilot to make the turn onto final for you and looking at your GPS, get a basic idea of how far out the A/C was when it started it's turn.

As far as speed goes, if you're stalling on final, you are either not setting the flaps correctly, corresponding to your speed and weight, or your speed is just to low all together. Look at the speed chart below, it's pretty accurate in FS and attempting to land too far out from the minimums will cause you to stall.

VREF - Landing Approach Speed gear down
880,000 lbs (flaps 25) 188 KIAS
880,000 lbs (flaps 30) 181 KIAS
450,000 lbs (flaps 25) 134 KIAS
450,000 lbs (flaps 30) 129 KIAS

Maximum Flap Placard Speeds Flaps
degrees.......KIAS
1.................280
5.................260
10...............240
20...............230
25...............205
30...............180

Posted: Wed May 19, 2004 1:50 pm Post subject:

Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2004 8:59 am Post subject:

Anyoine coming down here for this questions please note I just published the promised tutorial. You can find the link in this forum section.

Cheers,

Rhythmo

Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 8:51 am Post subject: My crashes are getting better!

Oye Masters!
Thanks to rhythmo's ILS tutorial on the lear (Its filed with my charts and never leaves my desk..HIGHLY RECOMMENDED), I have been landing all over the world and its a breeze...except for one glitch I came across. Someone pls explain!
You see, to practice multiple and quick landing practices, I have a Seattle Tacoma-Seattle Tacoma IFR flight plan...fair weather et al. To keep it simple for everyone, I take off to the east(default setting on FS9), turn around after a bit, go parallel opposite to the same runway, turn again and get the final approach pattern..so I am now on Hdg 10 at 2200 (o was it 2700?) Ft waiting for establishment on localizer..and there it comes! Hdg pops out and wait...suddenly my default 737 is turning right!! and more...till I have turned around completely flying west now..! APR still on, ALT still on...I think its a bug so hit HDG again. Again I turn around, flying just fine, can see the city in front of me. I hit APR and bang! absolutely at the same spot as before (as per my traced route on the map), HDG pops out and I am turning right again!!!
Now I am mighty *beep*...and I think that maybe the APR likes to turn the plane around a bit to align the stright approach so I let it do its job...a few more minutes and APR pops out after having flown my plane into the woods and mountains...so I make a spectacular crash!
Long problem..just to state things, my pitot heat is on, i have followed instructions to the hilt...have actually gone through the same stations 5 times (!!!), no add-on sceneries around this part of the world, running FS9, aircraft is 737-400, fair weather, IAS 185, no wind (am practicing remember!) AND I HAVE DONE THIS SUCCESSFULLY BEFORE!!!! waaaaaahhhhhhh!!!!
Does APR get affected by the immense no of airports around? I mean Tacoma sure has many! Or can one hit it on real late (after sigting runway approx 07 miles or so away)?
Request the masters to try this, I hope one of you encounters this and comes up with an explanation! By the way, it happened on a 737-100 (NASA-Simviation download) as well..
Pan Pan Pan!!!

Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2004 12:01 am Post subject:

Hold up a moment. I will try to create your problem. Heres the thing. Lets say you take off. Then you make a 90 degree left. This is called the cross wind leg of the pattern. THen you make another 90 degree left turn. You are now on the downwind leg of the pattern. You fly to the landing end of the runway, then make another left which puts you on the base leg in the pattern. A final left turn will put you on final. Is this what you are doing? Or are you turning right?

Also, are the frequencies correct? If you have tuned the wrong runway. . .

Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2004 10:30 am Post subject:

That was perfect recreation disaster...I am even tuning the runway correctly. One thing I'd like to add here is that I am running all this while on NAV and not GPS (against rhythmo's tutorial instructions!) and secondly I normally switch to APR the moment I get the pattern entry instruction, i.e. I dont wait for my markers to align...is that OK? I mean I dont normally have problems as the HDG pops out as long as I fly on the defined altitude below the glideslope...hope someome will fly it in this manner to check if this problem happens with them too.. Sad

Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2004 9:34 pm Post subject:

The best suggestion I can make is to delay turning on the Apr function until just before you would intercept the glideslope. In other words, as the needles come down (you are maintaining the assigned altitude, right?), just before they become centered, turn on the apr.

Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 6:09 am Post subject: haha

omg haha this is embarrasing. i was looking at my old posts...i didn't know what the frieken heading box was haha. now i can do full autolands :=D haha. and ILS n stuff. wow i was stupid. anybody else realize how stupid they once were or were you guys smart for too long of a time haha. btw when i said i was landing with a 747, i didn't use ANY of the autopilot haha....i didn't even pay attention to the instruments haha.