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PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 2:58 am    Post subject: Controlling pitch accurately Reply with quote

Are there any tips/hints to controlling pitch?

Whenever i use my joystick buttons to control the pitch, my plane is a bit "jumpy" i guess. Its hard to get a perfect pitch of 0 on the vsi. I have to rapidly hit the button all the time before i finally get it all leveled out.

Are there any tips/secrets? Should I lower/raise my repeat rate in controls?
Is using buttons bad? Should I use my mouse?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 3:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

in "level" flight, the pitch is never at dead zero ( 0 ). it will always be at +3 to +5 degrees nose up, due to the lift of the air going across the airframe. also, in pitch, speed plays a key role. Going too slow and you will nose down; too fast and you nose up and have to correct it toooo much too fast. Im sure you have done it, but if not, start out in the Cessna 172SP Skyhawk in the Training Lessons, and it will teach about picth, yaw, and roll... and what each is about, and how to perform each one. Good place to start, sometimes better than here. Also... it slightly depends on what plane you are flying, if it is Shareware, Payware, or default. (some airframes might have a bad aerodynamics / flight dynamics file, and that would cause it to act up at times).

Hope any of this has helped, if not... im sure RD, or GS or someone else will say otherwise. Good Luck.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pitch or vertical trim is extremely important when flying a plane...

V trim for take off can be between -10 to +30 depending on type of aircraft and flap settings... I record the takeoff trims for my favorite aircraft. They on on my checklists..

Landing V trim is also very important. When flaps are added V trim must be compensated to maintain the 500fps downslope...

90% of Flight Sim aircraft have very poor V trim indicators... I solved the problem by purchasing the Abacus Panel Designer. A large selection of digital gauges were included with the software. Some of them were digital V trim gauges....

I added digital V trim gauges to all of my favorite aircraft... Now I can set the V trim quickly and accurately to proper mode of flying...

Some of the Heavies have digital V trims on their glass panels but it is hard to see.. I added my digital gauges and placed them where you can easily see them on a busy landing....

The Abacus panel Designer will not edit complex panel gauges (the ones that enlarge when clicked). So I bought a copy of the Flight One Panel Studio. This is a far better Panel editor. You can build very complex panels. But they have no freebie gauges...

I would think that somewhere someone must sell sets of digital gauges..

I fly Alaska mostly. So I install my own gauge sets consisting of digital compass, digital radar altimeter, digital V trim, Beech HSI gauge, (easy ILS landings), the cockpit commander (a freebie gauge on some websites the cockpit commander makes it easy to quickly change radio and autopilot settings), I move the radios to another page. With the commander you don't need the radios on the first page.

I have purchased the terrain Sande ST3400 radar. I install it in all aircraft. When you fly Alaska it is very important... Plus it has lots of audio warnings when on approach in a snowstorm or fog..

Also, I have the Abacus co pilot gauge and editor.. This is very fun to use. I can design a flight program that uses intersects to fly the Aircraft. I have one that will fly the plane through the fjords and 5K mountians into Valdez in a fog.. It gets me close enough to see the runway so I can land manually... Amazing program. The gauge that comes with it makes a great backup autopilot...

The point is that for serious Simming you have to design your panels to fit your preferences. You can enlarge the gauges for easy visibility.

Most default panels are horribly designed with old fashioned gauges that are better than nothing but not much... Most are public domain gauges that are poorly designed...

It is very interesting to watch the V trim when flying on autopilot. When making an approach I drop the flaps before I turn off the Autopilot so the trim is set by the AP. Then I can make small changes to adjust the descent rate...

The digital V trim gauge is one of the most important gauges of all.

Many real world aircraft accidents are caused by improper V trim settings.
All modern aircraft should be required to have Digital V trim gauges..

Tj
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 3:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm, ill consider buying it

But right now is there anyway i can solve it?
Should I increase my repeat rate (I have it at the lowest)
Use my mousewheel?


Any suggestions?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 10:52 am    Post subject: trim Reply with quote

Hi BlackAlpha,

My joystick's also a bit jumpy, but i leave the repeat rate at max. When you take off (if your aircraft was correctly trimmed for take-off) , you will find that you need to trim nose down a LOT just after take-off ( i usually fly the 737) so i use the joystick to do that.

In cruise if I was flying without autopilot, i also couldn't trim for level flight with the joystick either, so I used the keyboard and it gave me much finer control over the trim. Just take num-lock OFF, then use numbers 7 and 1 on the keypad.

Good Luck.
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